Tennessee Drift season cancelled

[racedaygraphics]

As of right now, there is no Tennessee Drift season.

3 Vandals discharged fire extinguishers inside rooms in the tower above the grandstands.

They tried to break into a Pizza Hut trailer parked under the grandstands.

Someone spilled a bunch of oil on the lot infront of the ticket booths.

These three things have cost us our venue and our season. I am trying to beg for our lives. I am trying to beg for a second chance. The Operations manager at the track is willing to try to help us but the President of Dover Motorsports which owns Nashville Superspeedway has said that he does not want "Drifters" on his property anymore.

Thanks to the three people that screwed it up for the rest of us!

[supergoob]

dude that sucks major...ungrateful ass people

[sweetdee]

Oh wow thats horrible!

[Defcon86NWH]

Wow some people just have no respect.

[satalac]

If you know that it was three people, do you know who those three are? That really sucks man.

[sigurd]

http://people.hsc.edu/faculty-staff/tomv/RodneyDangerfield_Album_no_respect.jpg

My question is why would you want to save it if you can't sift out the DA's?

[fridaynightheat]

Was we the only people there and do they not have cameras there to see who did it

[gotzboost?]

Jesus fucking christ Dumbasses ruin it for everyone.

[AutoLuxury]

The first i am hearing of this. I don't know what to say!

[hayate_gekko]

WOW! Thats fucked up. Someone on this forums has to know who did it. Also, how do you know it was three? Tell me they got it on CCTV or something.

[BushidoDrifter]

Agreed! Tennessee Drift needs to take 100% responsibility. You owe it to the drifters here in Tennessee to make sure that NSS is aware that this problem is purely the fault of TND. You should also be pleading that other organizations who don't have a problem throwing a safe, organized, and staffed event aren't punished for your errors.

This is how I feel. I have been a part of organized drifting since the beginning here in TN and to hear this now is heartbreaking. There has never been an incident like this with any of the 5 other companies that have used the facility.

[Black240SX]

Wonderful.

[civilized_drifter]

i believe the people who did this are the same people we have had problems from the last drift event.

[nismojunkie]

This is what gives us drifters bad names. Fuck them.

[alex37211]

SONSOFBITCHES!! Me and Arti JUST got our cars ready for April.

If anybody knows who did this shit, PM me. You will remain anonymous if you wish.

[Matt H.]

someone has to know who these people are and if they want to keep this good thing we've got going alive they need to confess to this so that all the work i've put into my car to get it ready for the road course isn't totally wasted.

I <3 you barry.
If there's anything I can do to help you know i've got your back.
I want to drive the road course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Matt H.]

How does a group of people (more than one person, obviously) wander around the entire property, breaking into offices, trailers, and leaving oil slicks without someone noticing?

A security guard up in the offices caught them and they ran off. He didn't get a good enough look at them to be able to identify them though cause they got back into the crowd and he lost them.

[sc300 drifter]

From what I heard it's that team need money I mean Get Money with the ls1 targa coupe not a 100% but a few say that they are sure it's them and they are from Mississippi and have been notified to all the other drift societies around this region

[Leeroy]

great news to hear. :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

[AutoLuxury]

you mean the guys that got caught drinking at the last event......then got kicked out!

[civilized_drifter]

Yea them Amir

[civilized_drifter]

I just find it weird that need money is all ways the first crew to leave early

[Scionide]

What the fuck i was planning on making the next event, I have been building my car solely for this and now some dumbasses decided to fuck it up for everyone

[Leeroy]

I honestly can't believe that these guys were caught on the property drinking and were invited back again - and unsupervised to run around and tear shit up!?

That is absolutely 100% stupidity.

post win

[sc300 drifter]

I hope Barry can pull a miracle on this to keep us drifting at NSS I'm sure we can get together a good staff that will help keep the place clean and unvandolized. I know they are picky about oil spills and trash

[Leeroy]

i could understand a "temp ban," if you will, but no more drifting for tennessee is f'n harsh

[Scionide]

i could understand a "temp ban," if you will, but no more drifting for tennessee is f'n harsh

Lets be honest though, we arent their main source of imcome, so if anything they are doing it as a favor

[Leeroy]

very true. wish the fairgrounds was still an option :/

[Scionide]

ya hopefully someone will buy it and it will become available again

[Eunos735]

If the SCCA can't Auto X there becuase of this crap there will be HELL to pay.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

I would figure Eunos that the SCCA's good reputation with NSS over the many seasons they have run there would exempt them from this mess.

[Defcon86NWH]

From what I heard it's that team need money I mean Get Money with the ls1 targa coupe not a 100% but a few say that they are sure it's them and they are from Mississippi and have been notified to all the other drift societies around this region


There from Lebanon, Illinois (according to their video) and unless you have proof I wouldn't go calling people out.

[BushidoDrifter]

As much as I want to drift on the roadcourse again I'm not sure TND is the organization to run the event. I've driven at 3 drift events on the roadcourse and it's more involved than running a parking lot event, which is something TND seems to have a problem with.

I still can't believe after 5 years of drifting at the NSS something like this happens.

[seNATEr]

very true. wish the fairgrounds was still an option :/


whats to say another venue dont catch wind of this and turn there head when we try to use their facility . now TND just looks unorganized and prolly wont be allowed in somewhere else. hopefully this isnt the case and something is assured to make a zero tolerance rule in effect to eliminate the possibility of this ever from happening under TND events as well as any event in Tennessee.
as many people , i was building my car up. now this feels like a waste of time and money.
i can only thank the immature THREE for this . surely if they do things like this one of them will slip up and tell the wrong people and the just actions will be carried though in more than one measure.

not sayin TND isnt liable but lets not point fingers at people with out the facts. could of been spectators not drifters. but still dont change NSS regards to the situation.

[M-Technic owner]

bet it was them damned potheads!

[85rx-7gsl-se]

As much as I want to drift on the roadcourse again I'm not sure TND is the organization to run the event. I've driven at 3 drift events on the roadcourse and it's more involved than running a parking lot event, which is something TND seems to have a problem with.

I still can't believe after 5 years of drifting at the NSS something like this happens.


Yes because SEDA is awesome :ugh2:

[racedaygraphics]

Ventolin and Bushido:

Why don't you guys give me a call. I would love to hear how you would have done things different.

I run a very organized event. I have great staff. I have experienced emt's on site and security. I have all my ducks in a row.

The bottom line is, things happen. This happened. It was beyond any of our control. We have had 5 great events with no problems. We will continue to have events at other venues with no problems. There will be heavy security at the rest of my events from now on. Unfortunately, that will make the price go up.

The reasons for the NSS not having any more drifting stem from SEDA events, DG Trials events, and our one mishap this past weekend. From their point of view, they are tired of drifters in general. They also own Gateway International in St. Louis. They've had problems there too. They're just tired of it. Can't really blame them.

I take full responsibility for my events. I have tried for three days to make things right. The problem is not TND! The problem is not SEDA! The problem is not DG Trials. The problem is that there are a few punks that think they are funny for tearing stuff up and they have ruined it for all of US. Not you. US!

You guys need to help us (drift community) find a solution to this problem instead of pointing fingers at me.

Help me out, don't crucify me. I'm trying to help grow the sport.

Give me a call with anything helpful.

Barry
974-4209

[85rx-7gsl-se]

^Great post Barry. Hope it all works out :thumbup:

[sweetdee]

Try asking for some of your patrons that arent participating in your events to volunteer to work security. That should help in saving you some moneys. As far as a place to host your events, Im pretty much at a loss. The fairgrounds and NSS were your best bet. I know of a couple smaller tracks, one in Dickson and one in Shelbyville. Shoot me a PM and I will dig to find the owner's numbers.

[BushidoDrifter]

i will give you a call after dinner, sometime around 9 if that is ok.

[5series_4_Me]

Is this why TracksUnlimited isnt doing their event at NSS??? And I agree with Eunos, if SCCA isn't allowed there either well then say goodye to NSS...


Goddamn drifters, they're all a bunch of fucking hoodlums always making trouble...

[seNATEr]

Is this why TracksUnlimited isnt doing their event at NSS??? And I agree with Eunos, if SCCA isn't allowed there either well then say goodye to NSS...


Goddamn drifters, they're all a bunch of fucking hoodlums always making trouble...

well if everyone suspicion ends up being correct then i guess the people who did the act were military... so whats that say about other military???how about "import" people in general. or even honda kids.....dont take but one person to mess it all up for everyone in it. i just think your statement is a joke and shows lack of any intelligence . now im guessing you will write something back that appears to be clever. lets look at some intelligent people facts or (BIG BOY) if u will . this is not Barrys fault . coulda happened under anyones event time. if it was auto x, drag, or anyother event held at NSS then all hell would be broke loose on that organization . the blame should solely be put on the people who did the deeds spoken about. anyone and everyone who has attended a TND event knows better then to throw up and down grading facts about Barry or us drifters. i personally think he does a good damn job in making a event about fun and getting to know one another . we all have something in common and Barry has brought it all together in making drifting more capable to us guys to show up ,throw down and/or improve in the sport. im sure there are some dopes who may attend the events and feel like this was unbelievably necessary but this can happen anytime anywhere for anything. and people like you dont do anything to better the situation . its just ur bias comments which make it all look more than what it is. ****but i can thank miss Dee for looking out for us and contributing to help TND progress with a new venue.

[Duke89]

i would be happy to help at any event that im not participateing in.. if their is anyway i can help give me a PM.

[Ventolin]

Ventolin and Bushido:

Why don't you guys give me a call. I would love to hear how you would have done things different.

I run a very organized event. I have great staff. I have experienced emt's on site and security. I have all my ducks in a row.

The bottom line is, things happen. This happened. It was beyond any of our control. We have had 5 great events with no problems. We will continue to have events at other venues with no problems. There will be heavy security at the rest of my events from now on. Unfortunately, that will make the price go up.

The reasons for the NSS not having any more drifting stem from SEDA events, DG Trials events, and our one mishap this past weekend. From their point of view, they are tired of drifters in general. They also own Gateway International in St. Louis. They've had problems there too. They're just tired of it. Can't really blame them.

I take full responsibility for my events. I have tried for three days to make things right. The problem is not TND! The problem is not SEDA! The problem is not DG Trials. The problem is that there are a few punks that think they are funny for tearing stuff up and they have ruined it for all of US. Not you. US!

You guys need to help us (drift community) find a solution to this problem instead of pointing fingers at me.

Help me out, don't crucify me. I'm trying to help grow the sport.

Give me a call with anything helpful.

Barry
974-4209

Understood. Good point, and you're right - the solution is more important than pointing fingers. I made many of my comments out of frustration as I have many good friends who will be missing out because of this incident. I see you're obviously a responsible guy with a good focus here.

I'll try and give you a ring, if you see a 281 number its me.

[Ventolin]

Are there any nearby local small airports with large lots that may be interested in renting them out?

[Eunos735]

There are small airstrips in Smyrna and the Boro.

[alex37211]

hell yeah. Lets drift BNA.

[ELI]

^^^^x2

[seNATEr]

hell yeah. Lets drift BNA.

BARRY-today we will be off drifting off the southwest terminal. be sure u stay out of the continental plane loading zones. lol....or it could play out to be go between plane take offs and landing. i could see a line of drifters behind a plane waiting their turn at BNA...thats how i imagine it to go down.

[Ventolin]

The fastest and most entertaining event in Texas is the Mineral Wells venue. It is an old army base / airport that is currently used very, very little. They have HUGE well paved lots off of the main area. We had a course setup a few weeks ago that was seeing 100-110 mph entry speeds in the first corner.

You can see the discoloration from years and years of drifting:

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs464.snc3/25482_1223395267186_1298121434_30512265_1177473_n. jpg

The cost is ridiculously cheap, too. I'm sure there are lots out there that could be used for super cheap, just need to be creative.

[5series_4_Me]

well if everyone suspicion ends up being correct then i guess the people who did the act were military... so whats that say about other military???how about "import" people in general. or even honda kids.....dont take but one person to mess it all up for everyone in it. i just think your statement is a joke and shows lack of any intelligence . now im guessing you will write something back that appears to be clever. lets look at some intelligent people facts or (BIG BOY) if u will . this is not Barrys fault . coulda happened under anyones event time. if it was auto x, drag, or anyother event held at NSS then all hell would be broke loose on that organization . the blame should solely be put on the people who did the deeds spoken about. anyone and everyone who has attended a TND event knows better then to throw up and down grading facts about Barry or us drifters. i personally think he does a good damn job in making a event about fun and getting to know one another . we all have something in common and Barry has brought it all together in making drifting more capable to us guys to show up ,throw down and/or improve in the sport. im sure there are some dopes who may attend the events and feel like this was unbelievably necessary but this can happen anytime anywhere for anything. and people like you dont do anything to better the situation . its just ur bias comments which make it all look more than what it is. ****but i can thank miss Dee for looking out for us and contributing to help TND progress with a new venue.

Did you quote me by accident?

[seNATEr]

^ wow wish we had that lot here

[BushidoDrifter]

I just tried calling and it went to voicemail.

[jabboss1]

I have offered security services(post certified personel) as a peace offering to TND to make a proposal Dover. I have called Jeremy and let him know what it will take and hopefully having uniformed officers at the event will smooth things over with the owners.

[jstrobs21]

Jesuuuuuuuusssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!! I'm so pissed!!!!! My car is ONE part away from completion. Barry, ^ well said. Barry ran a great event everyone, this is really, really dissapointing. Man, I don't even know what to say/think/do. fuk

[WynnS123]

Sorry to hear this happened. It's definitely not TN Drift's fault as it could happen at any venue. They cannot be held liable for others' illegal actions. It doesn't work like that. The problem is the type of crowd drifting generally attracts, so the chances of something like this happening is greater at a drift event. The owners of NSS have experienced this first hand and they are justified in wanting to dissociate themselves with the drifting crowd. You just need more security. That sucks for the everyone participating and spectating because the price to play goes up.

[racedaygraphics]

Special Thanks to Ventolin. We had a great conversation tonight. Great Guy! Thanks man, Thanks for your support.

[crazyride69]

small airport around that i know of is i think john c tune airport off of briley?
could try there if they have a lot.

[5series_4_Me]

small airport around that i know of is i think john c tune airport off of briley?
could try there if they have a lot.

Isn't that the one near PAP?

[crazyride69]

uh unsure what pap is? i know its by western express lol

[egfanatic]

so what is going to happen to the IA summer meet that was supposed to be featuring drifting this year? is it getting cancelled to? the drifting that is, that puts alot of pressure to find another organization to step in.

[crazyride69]

and looking at it western express has a huge lot that you might get to use and if you ask i might be able to pull some strings

[REVOisGO]

how did all these rumors start about us? We didnt vandalize anything, we were drifting ALL DAY, and have the video to prove it. why would mike be asked to give a ride to the army poeple who were there, when we are such terrible people causing all kinds of problems?

A security guard up in the offices caught them and they ran off. He didn't get a good enough look at them to be able to identify them though cause they got back into the crowd and he lost them.

first clue. we were at our cars in line ALL DAY. how would we "run back into the crowd"???

not to mention, wouldnt the security guard be able to identify two guys in matching black race suits, one of which who has RED hair? i dont think thats very hard to remember.

From what I heard it's that team need money I mean Get Money with the ls1 targa coupe not a 100% but a few say that they are sure it's them and they are from Mississippi and have been notified to all the other drift societies around this region

1) we are from Illinois
2) who says they are sure its us? what proof do they have? this is insane, especially to taddle tale on us when i didnt event know about anything until i opened this thread.

you mean the guys that got caught drinking at the last event......then got kicked out!

dont know how this rumor got started either. we were never kicked out, we left because we ran out of tires. we found out we were "kicked out" later by people asking us how it happened, and we had no clue. no one ever talked to us about this, and mike was the only one drifting that day and he was not drinking. dont know where all of this is coming from....

I just find it weird that need money is all ways the first crew to leave early

running out of tires and living 6 hours away are both good reasons for leaving early....

we wouldnt drive 6 hours to show up to an event, act like jerks, and then ruin it for everyone else/get ourselves in trouble. thats ridiculous, not to mention insulting when all we did was show up, drifted, took some video, and then threw a video together afterwards to help spread the word about the event. why would we advertise for something if we were the ones causing problems?

[5series_4_Me]

uh unsure what pap is? i know its by western express lol


Lol, Pull a Part

[crazyride69]

oh idk never beeen to pull apart here but it could be idk

[5series_4_Me]

how did all these rumors start about us? We didnt vandalize anything, we were drifting ALL DAY, and have the video to prove it. why would mike be asked to give a ride to the army poeple who were there, when we are such terrible people causing all kinds of problems?



first clue. we were at our cars in line ALL DAY. how would we "run back into the crowd"???

not to mention, wouldnt the security guard be able to identify two guys in matching black race suits, one of which who has RED hair? i dont think thats very hard to remember.



1) we are from Illinois
2) who says they are sure its us? what proof do they have? this is insane, especially to taddle tale on us when i didnt event know about anything until i opened this thread.



dont know how this rumor got started either. we were never kicked out, we left because we ran out of tires. we found out we were "kicked out" later by people asking us how it happened, and we had no clue. no one ever talked to u about this, and mike was the only one drifting that day and he was not drinking. dont know where all of this is coming from....



running out of tires and living 6 hours away are both good reasons for leaving early....

we wouldnt drive 6 hours to show up to an event, act like assholes, and then ruin it for everyone else/get ourselves in trouble. thats ridiculous, not to mention insulting when all we did was show up, drifted, took some video, and then threw a video together afterwards to help spread the word about the event. why would we advertise for something if we were the ones causing problems?


Alcohol?

[racedaygraphics]

Hey guys, I don't know who it was. Everything we have is rumor. So don't take that stuff too seriously. Let's just focus on the positives.

Oh, just to clarify, I did NOT kick anyone out of the first event. I know that someone had beer in the pits. I didn't find that out until late in the event. I didn't realize that would even be an issue so I hadn't made it clear that is was not allowed. I did, however, put in the registration that no alcohol is allowed for the rest of our events. I wasn't clear about that at the first event. That's my fault. But I fixed it.

You guys chill. We need to be one family. We all are here for one reason. Drifting. If we fight amongst ourselves, we're never going to gain the respect we want from other racing organizations.

Can't we all just get along! LOL!

[93UsdmSilvia]

Idk if this is any help but early in the day around 8am my girlfriend and i were sitting in my car waiting for the drivers meeting and we saw a group of kids go into the stands with a group of people that were not with TND or the motorcycle driver training. i have no idea when the vandalism occurred either around what time was it?

[Leftlane]

and looking at it western express has a huge lot that you might get to use and if you ask i might be able to pull some strings

ha. dont even bother. i work at western express and the owner would NEVER allow it. he could care less bout the car scene. besides...theres no where to move all the trailers thats on the lot.

[Ventolin]

I talked to Barry for awhile tonight. I can definitely vouch for him and what hes doing. After reviewing with him, as well as a few others, I've come to the conclusion that this could've happened to anyone. Previous incidents with other groups definitely don't help the case, which is why this wasn't only a Tennessee Drift ban.

[crazyride69]

ha. dont even bother. i work at western express and the owner would NEVER allow it. he could care less bout the car scene. besides...theres no where to move all the trailers thats on the lot.

not that lot the one next to the building thats not fenced

and do you know robert d.?

[Leftlane]

robert d?
all the entire land from the road to robert sysco is western express property

[Scionide]

Okay so lets clarify where we stand,
1. We dont know who did it for sure, so lets try and figure that out
2. Is there any way we could possibly get re established with NSS via Security, Police, Etc...
3. If not we need to try and find another venue IE: Empty airport, other large parking lots, etc

[crazyride69]

robert duran he has been with western for a while dives the red harley parked between the service center and that containers

[BushidoDrifter]

I talked to Barry for awhile tonight. I can definitely vouch for him and what hes doing. After reviewing with him, as well as a few others, I've come to the conclusion that this could've happened to anyone. Previous incidents with other groups definitely don't help the case, which is why this wasn't only a Tennessee Drift ban.

UGH. Who are the few others and what are the previous incidents?

[egfanatic]

um so whats the deal with IA?

[Leftlane]

robert duran he has been with western for a while dives the red harley parked between the service center and that containers

oh yeah, ive heard his name several times. hes not on my fleet though, so i dont really talk to him

[M-Technic owner]

Are there any nearby local small airports with large lots that may be interested in renting them out?
I've been wonderin this forever.. my uncle flies a cesna out of shelbyville airport and i know a guy who works there.. i might talk to them.

[dakar318]

i was helping a friend change a clutch out on a s13 today along with some other guys, and i heard one guy mention how he changed his oil at the event using walmart bags saying someone said it was a good idea. and he didn't have a oil drip pan. like really he gave a reenactment of how the bags were full of oil and spilling over...

i just kinda looked at him and asked wtf were you thinking. and whyyyy

of course the pits on the road course has a pan and fluid recycling containers on site...

pm me if you must

[WAHPSHH]

robert duran he has been with western for a while dives the red harley parked between the service center and that containers

Robert Duran is cool as a fan. I work there too.

[thetruesaxymanNWH]

Portland has a big lot in a public park that they might rent out. Portland's kind of a random place for it to be had tho. Lol

[crazyride69]

Yea I can't remeber who he runs for

[Quazar]

The reasons for the NSS not having any more drifting stem from SEDA events, DG Trials events, and our one mishap this past weekend. From their point of view, they are tired of drifters in general. They also own Gateway International in St. Louis. They've had problems there too. They're just tired of it. Can't really blame them.

I take full responsibility for my events.


Hello Barry,

I'm not really familiar with who you are, however I would suggest that you leave DGtrials out of this situation.

Instead of passing the buck off on other organizations, take full responsibility for what has happened here.

Please realize that "your one mishap this past weekend" has amounted to this end result.

Regardless of who vandalized the facility, this happened at your event.

-Eugene

[satalac]

Fuckin E-FIGHT for tha driftarz!!!!!!! The legitimacy of the sport locally is fading faster and faster.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Hello Barry,

I'm not really familiar with who you are, however I would suggest that you leave DGtrials out of this situation.

Instead of passing the buck off on other organizations, take full responsibility for what has happened here.

Please realize that "your one mishap this past weekend" has amounted to this end result.

Regardless of who vandalized the facility, this happened at your event.

-Eugene

So you are saying the facility has never had one single issue with your organization? The track was just as nice as how you found it? From my understanding it is NSS and Dover who said they have had issues with pretty much every organization who has had a drift event out here...Not Barry ;)

[Ventolin]

There is way too much elitism these days, I really hope what happened doesn't make it worse. :\ TND did a good job of catering to the amateurs. They were always very open and approachable. Other groups aren't always so inviting.

[Quazar]

So you are saying the facility has never had one single issue with your organization? The track was just as nice as how you found it? From my understanding it is NSS and Dover who said they have had issues with pretty much every organization who has had a drift event out here...Not Barry ;)

I'm sorry, I am not familiar with you.

If there were an issue, it has nothing to do with the intentional vandalism and trespass that occurred at this weekend's event. Dover/NSS made this decision after this event.

Please PM me and I will send you my email for additional correspondence if needed.

Thanks,

Eugene

[fridaynightheat]

I'm going to talk to Motlow and see if we could use their parking lot. I know that they have had auto-x in the past so I'm hopping that they would let us drift there. If you guys don't mind coming to Warren Co.

Barry is a great guy to drift with. I just don't understand all the other drift groups trying to talk him down. It wasn't like he was the one who did it plus he tried to fix it. I think that the track it being a bunch of bitches about what happen. I understand about what happened in the stands but that why no one is allowed up there when there isn't a big race, but the oil spill is them just being bitches they no that's where everyone is going to park there car and work on them Shit Happens. I think the track was built for people to race in a safe place and off the street and now they will not let us drift in a safe place we can do something about it.

[sweetdee]

Its still a bit unknown in regards to drifting at IA BUT the track has no say over who IA invites. So keep your fingers crossed and hope that yall can still have drifting at IA.

[trytoslide]

A security guard up in the offices caught them and they ran off. He didn't get a good enough look at them to be able to identify them though cause they got back into the crowd and he lost them.
No shit man!!! someone has to know who did this and if they like or care about drifting at all they'll speak up. At least then these assholes can be banned, prosecuted, beaten senseless or whatever else.This season looked to be great so wtf? Maybe jeremy and barry can find another venue hopefully.

[KoukiS14Drifter]

i say we get a big ass posse and beat the shit out of them for this.

[Ventolin]

Seems to me like nobody knows for sure who did it anyways.

[dakar318]

didn't some organization get kicked out of a speedway in georgia because people broke in after dark?

anyways, i liked the TND stuff because it catered to ametures.

but its probably one of the entrants immature friends being the ass hats

[hayate_gekko]

Barry,

If you need any help or volunteers, I will definitely help out and volunteer. If you need additional staff or security volunteers, I will definitely help out and volunteer as well. Dont hesitate to PM me for my number. Matter of fact I will PM you my number.

I dont drift but I respect the community, like drifting, and attend the events. I will also always help out a friend.

[4x4le]

well how about this (and everyone is going to hate me for it)

but just a few facts.....
the scca was at our event- why?
they were bitching at berry about how were screwing up their "race track" parking lot.
they were telling him how bad of a group of people we are and how were always in trouble. then security told barry what happened right in front of the scca. then the scca left right?

hasnt the scca got us kicked out of 2 places in memphis too?


I have no proof an scca person done it, but I would blame them 100x before get money. they have motovation, a dislike for us, a dislike for what we do to the parking lot, and prevous times getting drifters kicked out of places. why the fuck were you guys at our event again? i know one thing, i guess im going to have to start coming to scca events. ill bring lots of tires.

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[shifty35]

well how about this (and everyone is going to hate me for it)

but just a few facts.....
the scca was at our event- why?
they were bitching at berry about how were screwing up their "race track" parking lot.
they were telling him how bad of a group of people we are and how were always in trouble. then security told barry what happened right in front of the scca. then the scca left right?

hasnt the scca got us kicked out of 2 places in memphis too?


I have no proof an scca person done it, but I would blame them 100x before get money. they have motovation, a dislike for us, a dislike for what we do to the parking lot, and prevous times getting drifters kicked out of places. why the fuck were you guys at our event again? i know one thing, i guess im going to have to start coming to scca events. ill bring lots of tires.

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I'm guessing you don't know the TRSCCA guys very well.

Feel free to come to the SCCA events. If you insist on drifting the turns, you'll probably be asked (politely) to leave, since it's generally slower, and frowned upon.

[aye bee]

since it's generally slower, and frowned upon.

i beg to differ.

[4x4le]

what do you mean i dont know them very well? everything i just said DID happen. that is a fact. am i going to waste my time coming out there? probably not as that was a joke. lets not get to involved with that, what about the rest of it. why the fuck were they at our event if they dont like us so much. we have 1 group of people with a motive. were getting somewhere now....

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[aye bee]

wait... brandon what?!? really?

[shifty35]

what do you mean i dont know them very well? everything i just said DID happen. that is a fact. am i going to waste my time coming out there? probably not as that was a joke. lets not get to involved with that, what about the rest of it. why the fuck were they at our event if they dont like us so much. we have 1 group of people with a motive. were getting somewhere now....

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I'm just saying I've met most of the SCCA officers personally, and there isn't a single one among them that would trash NSS.

The SCCA guys are generally older, mature folk. I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it seems... very... unlikely.

[aye bee]

I'm just saying I've met most of the SCCA officers personally, and there isn't a single one among them that would trash NSS.

The SCCA guys are generally older, mature folk. I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it seems... very... unlikely.

yeah, thats what i was thinking too. scca=old fucking men with corvettes and gay old men with miatas.

jkjkjkjk
i wanna come "auto-x" when my car is going again.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

I'm going to talk to Motlow and see if we could use their parking lot. I know that they have had auto-x in the past so I'm hopping that they would let us drift there. If you guys don't mind coming to Warren Co.

.

I kinda doubt this will happen. Ask Ater why ;)

[TWINKIE]

This is what gives us drifters bad names. Fuck them.

EXACTLY!
THIS and NISMO tattoos

[KoukiS14Drifter]

lmao yeah....i thought about getting TRD on my elbow.

[Ventolin]

EXACTLY!
THIS and NISMO tattoos

... dude... LOL!

[BushidoDrifter]

I've thought about it some more and have come to the conclusion that I'm probably just venting. I was really excited about this drift season and to hear about this has put me in a bad mood. I have been unfair and I just want to say I hope everything works out.

[nismojunkie]

Wow still stuck on my tat. Wernt we all here to try to fix a messed up situation? And yet some ppl have nothing better to do than add to the bullshit.

[thetruesaxymanNWH]

This is very disheartening. I was lookin forward to riding along, and learning a lot more this season. I rode with Ater at this last event, and had a blast.....guess that's no more :( hope everything is resolved soon

[Leftlane]

just throwing it out there...but what about the mall parking lot in bellevue? i mean...that mall isnt even open, is it? maybe someone could approach them?

and i know this is probably a horrible idea...but...titans stadium? its not like they dont host events in their parking anyways. car shows, concerts, fairs, etc

[racedaygraphics]

Thanks Pierre.

[reddozen]

I'm just saying I've met most of the SCCA officers personally, and there isn't a single one among them that would trash NSS.

The SCCA guys are generally older, mature folk. I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it seems... very... unlikely.

I would have to agree. Now I wouldn't put it past an over zealous member, but I don't think it would have anything to do with the actual organizers.

Have you considered becoming a recognized SCCA drift group? It could come with more clout behind it as the SCCA as a whole is a little more recognized / respected.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Memphis tried that RedDozen. Didnt work well at all...

[reddozen]

Memphis tried that RedDozen. Didnt work well at all...

fair enough... sad.
the existing industry is going to force it into extinction because no one wants to actually support the sport.

[Scionide]

Have done several SCCA events in the tC I highly, highly doubt they had anything to do with it. I would bet money some punk ass high school kids were behind this. Caught draft of a rumor that it was maybe some kids in a lifted explorer?

[Defcon86NWH]

I would say kids did this. I doubt a SCCA member came out to do this seems a little on the "movie" side.

[thetruesaxymanNWH]

I suspect kids as well....and I'm 17. It's people like them, that make older people look down on kids like me (at first). All I wanna do is go to events, watch, ride, and learn....but I can't even do that because of my peers and their constant dumbassery.

[seNATEr]

I kinda doubt this will happen. Ask Ater why ;)


lol i like ur point nate

[Scionide]

dumbassery.

Excellent word choice haha and I definately agree

[seNATEr]

Excellent word choice haha and I definately agree

i was just on the phone with ater about that word. classic

[satalac]

Shame Rec World is gone. They had a fun go-kart slick track.

[Dude]

Wouldn't be suprised if it was some dumb kids from LHS or WCHS...

[struka]

ugh...(thats all i will say)

[struka]

I would suggest that you leave DGtrials out of this situation
we never had any issues at our events....

[sc300 drifter]

Well I guess we will have to do some once a month backroad drifting :) and get reckless driving tickets again!!!! Ahhhh takes me back to the highschool days when we just didn't give a shit lol

[Serum]

I now see why other organizations have private/invite only events.


From my experience with the one event i've been to at nss, it's just waaaay to open. I went to the bathroom, which is pretty far from the parking lot, and thought where is security? I could have pretty much toured the place and doubt anyone would have noticed. I think it should all be kept in a general area. Have port-o-potties and security around the general area. Anyone who goes outside that zone can be asked to turn around or leave. I'm talking GUANTANAMO BAY and ALCATRAZ type events.

Shits just sad. It really shouldn't have to be that way

[Ventolin]

I disagree about invite only events. That is exactly what we don't need. You shouldn't have to be in the "cool crowd" to get an invite. Elitism makes me sick.

Should events be more regulated? Yes, and they will. Prices will begin to reflect that as security is brought out in the future at TND events.

I think attendees could possibly be screened, and if not familiar to the organization they could require a referral of some sort, as well as disclosure of their personal information in the event a problem occurs.

[struka]

you cant screen stupidity.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Well now the guys on DriftStl say that only TNDrift is banned but other drifters can use the facility :?

[85rx-7gsl-se]

I disagree about invite only events. That is exactly what we don't need. You shouldn't have to be in the "cool crowd" to get an invite. Elitism makes me sick.

Should events be more regulated? Yes, and they will. Prices will begin to reflect that as security is brought out in the future at TND events.

I think attendees could possibly be screened, and if not familiar to the organization they could require a referral of some sort, as well as disclosure of their personal information in the event a problem occurs.


Here is what I would like to know...Are all spectators required to sign a waiver and get a wristband at the TND events?

[watts13]

this may not help since im on the other side of tennessee but we've been trying to get drift events at BMS ( bristol motor speedway ) for some time now.. we just dont have any organizations local to our area that could help out.. we have local drag events going on all summer ( first even starting this saturday ) going on into the fall ( mid september i believe ). there is plenty of room for an event on the bottom side of the drag strip in between the two tracks where we have autocross events a few times a year

[4x4le]

as for the port-a-pots........... That was a consirn TND had before we ever had an event there and the NSS said that their facility is too nice for us to not be able to use it. They are the ones that made the call to leave the gate open for everyone to walk around free range.


At what point is the NSS not responsible for their own property?

And I keep hearing all of these other drift organizers saying that they never had any issues out there but the NSS sure had a long list of complaints on all of you guys.... The icing was just put on the cake Saturday however.
For example when someone came all the way up from Atlanta and wanted in the gates earlier than what he was renting the venu for, he had lots of choice words to say to the security guard.
Also when certain people were having private days on the road course and kept intentionally doing dirt drops the NSS was not happy with that.

Well now the guys on DriftStl say that only TNDrift is banned but other drifters can use the facility :?
Cool, all we need is a new business license and domain name!!!

Here is what I would like to know...Are all spectators required to sign a waiver and get a wristband at the TND events?


Yes, but the motorcycle people and the SCCA people do not because they wernt there for us

[fridaynightheat]

Wouldn't be suprised if it was some dumb kids from LHS or WCHS...

are you talking about Warren Co. High School???? I know everyone from there that's from WCHS and I know no one with me did it

[thetruesaxymanNWH]

He probably means Wilson central

[Neallyboy]

Hey everybody, just joined! But I've been looking to buy a 240 hatch, and after going to round 2, i've decided its time to go through with buying the car. Then I noticed this post.. Do you think there is going to be any more events this year? would it be stupid to buy the car now that this has happened?

[sc300 drifter]

Just cause there isn't any events here doesn't mean you can't buy a car. Drive out to atlanta for events it's like 3-1/2 hours but worth it south east drift throws some bad ass events I liked tndrift but at the nss I had to waight like 10-15 mins between each run because there were no run groups but other than that I loved the events Barry has had soo far and I really hope we can pull a miracle and keep tndrift going!!!

[alex37211]

Hey everybody, just joined! But I've been looking to buy a 240 hatch, and after going to round 2, i've decided its time to go through with buying the car. Then I noticed this post.. Do you think there is going to be any more events this year? would it be stupid to buy the car now that this has happened?

.....no

[Neallyboy]

good point.. so i guess in the mean time, ill just keep saving! thanks for the input!!

[thetruesaxymanNWH]

Threadjack attempt fail.

[ELI]

Shut up^^^ noob is just asking

[Neallyboy]

Threadjack attempt fail.

yeah, my bad on that one..

[boostiswhatsfordinnerNWH]

Im at a loss for words... I JUST saw this thread.

I honestly think ill lose my girlfriend now because there are no events... it seems to be all she talks about. jk Props to Aye Bee.

Unfortunately I wasnt able to make it to this event, and its soooo sad to hear about something like this happening to a sprouting motorsport. I know Barry has had some really nice and organized events and the blame is not to be placed on anyone but the vandals that did it... not TND, not DGTrials, not SEDA.

It happens without fail that one bad apple ruins the whole bunch. It almost makes me sick to my stomach to even think about people disrespecting someones property such as what has happened.

I dont know what to say really... I hope we can narrow it down to a group, so we can throw the bad apples out.

Sad day...

[aye bee]

I honestly think ill lose my girlfriend now because there are no events... it seems to be all she talks about. jk Props to Aye Bee.




LOLZ! hahaha

[ELI]

Hello Barry,

I'm not really familiar with who you are, however I would suggest that you leave DGtrials out of this situation.

Instead of passing the buck off on other organizations, take full responsibility for what has happened here.

Please realize that "your one mishap this past weekend" has amounted to this end result.

Regardless of who vandalized the facility, this happened at your event.

-Eugene
joined up to post two replies just to bitch and moan!?!?!? IF you keep your events straight, then dont worrie about what everybody else says.

[struka]

^^ we dont worry unless our name is brought up....which it was. i am done with this.

[stlcankles]

word struka......word

[4x4le]

The NSS brought your name up. No one from tnd is blaming you guys. It would be stupid for anyone to be mad at some dirt dropps when we just got in trouble for intentional property destruction.

No one (here) brought your name up in order to pass blame off or to intend disrespect. I dont understand the amount of offense that is being taken.

The competition between surrounding drift sanctions will do nothing but cause more grief like this to happen in the future until none of us have anywhere to go. It needs to stop, now!

In my opinion, everyone that has shit to say about how tnd is ran and wants to compare how their sanction is better makes their people seem more like a likely candidate to be the un named offenders.

Lets just cut it out and help each other help this sport grow in size in the area and let potential venues be more welcoming to us.

Im at a loss for words... I JUST saw this thread.

Unfortunately I wasnt able to make it to this event, and its soooo sad to hear about something like this happening to a sprouting motorsport. I know Barry has had some really nice and organized events and the blame is not to be placed on anyone but the vandals that did it... not TND, not DGTrials, not SEDA.

It happens without fail that one bad apple ruins the whole bunch. It almost makes me sick to my stomach to even think about people disrespecting someones property such as what has happened.

I dont know what to say really... I hope we can narrow it down to a group, so we can throw the bad apples out.

Sad day...
Great post:-)

[Ventolin]

I dont understand the amount of offense that is being taken.

Me, neither.

Lets just cut it out and help each other help this sport grow in size in the area and let potential venues be more welcoming to us.

True. Hostility and elitism just hurts everyone. People should try and accept that this entire drift community is suffering and the more separation created between groups the more unapproachable drifting is as a sport and the more problems caused because of needless grudges.

[5series_4_Me]

word struka......word


gtfo

[my_friend_bobby]

just saw the post sux what happend you would think that how much people talk someone would have heard who did it. i was really looking foward to get back out there then this oh well hope yall find who did it

[Quazar]

The NSS brought your name up. No one from tnd is blaming you guys. It would be stupid for anyone to be mad at some dirt dropps when we just got in trouble for intentional property destruction.

No one (here) brought your name up in order to pass blame off or to intend disrespect. I dont understand the amount of offense that is being taken.

The competition between surrounding drift sanctions will do nothing but cause more grief like this to happen in the future until none of us have anywhere to go. It needs to stop, now!


I understand your defensiveness.. you guys are in a tough spot, but was no need to bring our name up.

Why was it brought up? Comparison? For fun? Does it just type that easily?

You keep bringing up the dirt drop situation. Are you trying to make a point?
This was resolved and we were able to continue to run events at NSS.

As I have stated before, our events and alleged incident have had no bearing on the situations and results surrounding your event.

We have run over 70 events in the past 6 years. No incidents like yours have occurred. No one has gotten hurt. We've never been kicked out of a facility.

You should not be worried about us competing in your market. When was the last time a DGtrials event took participants from you?

I don't think TND was even founded when we took a hiatus from running public events.

I will no longer going to be replying to this thread as there is no reason for me to continue with this. Questions/Comments/Concerns.. please contact me privately.

Please take the extra effort to make sure that your future events are safe and secure. If you are an organizer, you probably shouldn't be driving... you need be paying attention to the event. Running good events isn't all that fun. That is why we've taken a step back.

Good luck with your future events.

Thanks,

Eugene

[civilized_drifter]

No one is saying that it's all your fault. Get over your self

[Ventolin]

The only thing anyone did was repeat an explanation provided by Nashville Super Speedway. If that is a problem then I'm sure the phone number is listed in the phone book.

[LexusGSXR]

Lol!!!!! go to nashville superspeedway... not nashville fairgrounds.. ghetto.

[struka]

i hope it all gets worked out and keep everyone updated....also if there is anything anyone can do to help.

[s13Hunter]

this sucks why would u fuck with other people shit. i hope they find out who did it this has been a fun event to go to. if yall need any help out ill help

[Frank]

So what is the deal with the Summer IA drift event? I know people that have already paid the entry fee.

[sweetdee]

So what is the deal with the Summer IA drift event? I know people that have already paid the entry fee.


Im not sure yet, but I have a feeling it wont be a problem, the track really doesnt have a say on who IA invites. keep your fingers crossed

[Ventolin]

Frank,

I honestly have no idea. I do know that Import Alliance is in very good standing with the owners of the Nashville Super Speedway. They have put on a great, well staffed event for years and have been extremely respectful to the staff and property.

I don't think that it is a good idea to speculate, though. If anyone is concerned about their entry or the event I would suggest contacting someone from Import Alliance - either Don, Omari, or Amir.

http://www.importalliance.org/

importalliance@gmail.com

[sweetdee]

Frank,

I honestly have no idea. I do know that Import Alliance is in very good standing with the owners of the Nashville Super Speedway. They have put on a great, well staffed event for years and have been extremely respectful to the staff and property.

I don't think that it is a good idea to speculate, though. If anyone is concerned about their entry or the event I would suggest contacting someone from Import Alliance - either Don, Omari, or Amir.

http://www.importalliance.org/

importalliance@gmail.com

They will post up whats going on once its known for sure. No sense in bugging those guys, I already brought it to Omari's and Amir's attention.

[Ventolin]

True, I'd only suggest contacting them if you actually paid an entry fee and will be directly affected in the event that there is an issue.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Im not sure yet, but I have a feeling it wont be a problem, the track really doesnt have a say on who IA invites. keep your fingers crossed

While you have a point remember IA was supposed to have a drift event two years ago and it was canceled at the last minute due to issues with NSS. I wouldnt say NSS has no say but the odds of them being more favorable to allowing it when you have a very upstanding organization with a good relationship with NSS offering to take responsibility for the event is high.

[240roadking]

GGAGHAHHAHAHAAHAAHAAHAHHAHAH DDAMMMMNNIIITITTTTTTT WHY THE FUCK CANT PEOPLE ACT LIKE GROWN ASS PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO ACT. I MEAN WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEM ,JUST WHEN I WAS FINALLY GONNA BE ABLE TO DRIFT OR AT LEAST ATTEND A FULL SEASON SOME MENTALLY DISFUNCTIONAL IDIOTS WHO ARE CLEARLY THE RESULTS OF FAULTY CONDOMS FUCK EVERYTHING UP FOR EVERYONE.

I hope that something can be worked out by all the sanctioning bodies and we can all get back to doing what we love to do......DRIVE

[struka]

what i always suggested is to keep spectators out of pits and keep them on the grass across the fence while having port a johns without using the bathrooms. this way it prevents people from stealing shit at the pits and stupid shit like this.

[aye bee]

what i always suggested is to keep spectators out of pits and keep them on the grass across the fence while having port a johns without using the bathrooms. this way it prevents people from stealing shit at the pits and stupid shit like this.

i agree. and i dont like a bunch of n00bs walking around my car if im trying to fix something, it gets frustrating. and i dont like walking away from my car when there is alot of spectators around, and i have my hood popped trying to cool it off. at one event a "spectator" pulled my friends wastegate vacuum off.. people are just stupid.

[MCarp22]

the scca was at our event- why?
why the fuck were you guys at our event again?

I'm guessing there was an event the next day and they were there to set up the course.

[watts13]

Barry - you have a pm sir

[spoolie]

A ignorant sport brings ignorant people...right?

Look at bowling.

[shifty35]

A ignorant sport brings ignorant people...right?

Look at most every gun range.

Dunno if you want to open this can of worms. :-P

[spoolie]

Dunno if you want to open this can of worms. :-P


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_d23cbK5EC_M/RnRTsMsb9qI/AAAAAAAAAE0/ihd3SRjVyC0/s320/can_opener_2.JPG

[5series_4_Me]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_d23cbK5EC_M/RnRTsMsb9qI/AAAAAAAAAE0/ihd3SRjVyC0/s320/can_opener_2.JPG


Subscribed...I want to see what the Great Spoolie will bring about....

[spoolie]

Probably the re re re post of the dipshit BMW drifter that almost got run over.....walk it off.

[Serum]

There is also a vid of a bmw owner who did get run over.

[5series_4_Me]

Yea yea yea...everybody has seen that shit...beating a dead horse...faggots...

[Leftlane]

my question is...wasnt this just a practice session? if so...why was it open to the public?
i remember going to an event either last summer or the summer before that at NSS that was just a practice session and it was for participants, staff, and media people ONLY!
cant remember who the host was...maybe DGtrials, but not sure. but the host only allowed certain people to attend the practice session.

competition is one thing
practice is another...

[ELI]

I understand your defensiveness.. you guys are in a tough spot, but was no need to bring our name up.

Why was it brought up? Comparison? For fun? Does it just type that easily?

You keep bringing up the dirt drop situation. Are you trying to make a point?
This was resolved and we were able to continue to run events at NSS.

As I have stated before, our events and alleged incident have had no bearing on the situations and results surrounding your event.

We have run over 70 events in the past 6 years. No incidents like yours have occurred. No one has gotten hurt. We've never been kicked out of a facility.

You should not be worried about us competing in your market. When was the last time a DGtrials event took participants from you?

I don't think TND was even founded when we took a hiatus from running public events.

I will no longer going to be replying to this thread as there is no reason for me to continue with this. Questions/Comments/Concerns.. please contact me privately.

Please take the extra effort to make sure that your future events are safe and secure. If you are an organizer, you probably shouldn't be driving... you need be paying attention to the event. Running good events isn't all that fun. That is why we've taken a step back.

Good luck with your future events.

Thanks,

Eugene

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! and GTFO!!!!

[Ventolin]

competition is one thing
practice is another...

It just depends on the venue and how they want to run it. Charging a spectator entry fee can help fund things as long as you have enough staff to be mindful of the extra attendance.

[ELI]

It just depends on the venue and how they want to run it. Charging a spectator entry fee can help fund things as long as you have enough staff to be mindful of the extra attendance.
Ya know this isnt a bad idea....

[AutoLuxury]

Frank,

I honestly have no idea. I do know that Import Alliance is in very good standing with the owners of the Nashville Super Speedway. They have put on a great, well staffed event for years and have been extremely respectful to the staff and property.

I don't think that it is a good idea to speculate, though. If anyone is concerned about their entry or the event I would suggest contacting someone from Import Alliance - either Don, Omari, or Amir.

http://www.importalliance.org/

importalliance@gmail.com


We are addressing the matter and will notify you all when we have come to a resolution to this matter.

Thank You

Import Alliance Team

[Scionide]

Any luck on finding another venue? I was thinkin about Beach Bend but some people said the parking lot sucked. What about MTSU? I know they have some huge parking lots, but I don't know if they would be willing to work with it.

[Comeback_Kid]

I just saw this thread too and it pisses me off pretty good. I was really looking forward to meeting some people from the forum and learning twice as much on a track than I would somewhere else.

I really hope they find out who did this and hopefully everything gets settled back to the way it should be. Worse comes to worse, I hope the new venue will be better than the original.

[CAMinator]

bump

[4x4le]

what i always suggested is to keep spectators out of pits and keep them on the grass across the fence while having port a johns without using the bathrooms. this way it prevents people from stealing shit at the pits and stupid shit like this.

nss would not allow us to have port a johns supposedly. The rest I agree whole heartedly. I hate having anyone other than other drivers allowed in the pits. They do not belong anywhere near my stuff imo.

I'm guessing there was an event the next day and they were there to set up the course.

We were on their course. Nothing for them to do as we were there the entire day. We were renting the parking lot saturday, not them.

my question is...wasnt this just a practice session? if so...why was it open to the public?
i remember going to an event either last summer or the summer before that at NSS that was just a practice session and it was for participants, staff, and media people ONLY!
cant remember who the host was...maybe DGtrials, but not sure. but the host only allowed certain people to attend the practice session.

competition is one thing
practice is another...

More money is brought in from spectators than from drivers actually. It would cost us 3x as much to drift if there were no spectators.




And now this.

No one (here) brought your name up in order to pass blame off or to intend disrespect. I dont understand the amount of offense that is being taken.

The competition between surrounding drift sanctions will do nothing but cause more grief like this to happen in the future until none of us have anywhere to go. It needs to stop, now!

Barry mentions SEDA and DGTrials to try spread the blame to other events and even other venues.


The reasons for the NSS not having any more drifting stem from SEDA events, DG Trials events, and our one mishap this past weekend. From their point of view, they are tired of drifters in general. They also own Gateway International in St. Louis. They've had problems there too. They're just tired of it. Can't really blame them.



DGTrials is not trying to compete with TND.

I understand your defensiveness.. you guys are in a tough spot, but was no need to bring our name up.

You keep bringing up the dirt drop situation. Are you trying to make a point?
This was resolved and we were able to continue to run events at NSS.

We have run over 70 events in the past 6 years. No incidents like yours have occurred. No one has gotten hurt. We've never been kicked out of a facility.

You should not be worried about us competing in your market. When was the last time a DGtrials event took participants from you?

I don't think TND was even founded when we took a hiatus from running public events.





In my opinion, everyone that has shit to say about how tnd is ran and wants to compare how their sanction is better makes their people seem more like a likely candidate to be the un named offenders.
To even suggest that anyone would purposely sabotage an event is unnacceptable. What makes it even more rediculous is that all other organizations are based in another state and did not attend the event.

Furthermore Barry admitted that there were people drinking during an event and then admitted he forgot to specifiy that during the drivers meeting. A driver on another forum said that his car was never tech inspected. It doesn't sound like Barry has things under control like he claims.

As far as helping the sport grow, I've been doing that since 2004 when I first volunteered at a SEDA event. I've been helping at events since then all over the southeast. I even bought 2 spots for THE FIRST drift event in middle TN even though i didn't drive just so they could afford to pay for insurance.

Feel free to pm me if you want to continue this discussion.


No, I dont want to continue this discussion through private messages. Im posting on a public forum so the public can weigh in their opinion. I have no beef with any of the other drift organizations, DGtrials included, unless your the owner or something because in that case it is being ran by a dumbass whos head is as thick as a brick wall.
Why are you having so much trouble understanding that the reason given to us from the NSS for no more drifting at their track wasnt just us? We had 1 fuck up but they listed off the fuck ups and DG trials was named by them. Get over it. Im not blaming anyone for anything besides the dick heads that vandalized the office. If you have anyone to be mad at about your name coming up contact Dover. If not, fuck off.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Cankles on DriftSTIL insists that NSS is open to everyone except TNRace and told me to stop commenting unless I was at the event. I wish he would come over here and share his sources....We know where I am getting my info from.

[BushidoDrifter]

Thanks for posting a PRIVATE Message in the public forum. That's real ethical. I was only trying to explain my point of view. Thank you for not addressing any of the points I made. I don't even know who you but if you have a personal problem with me please feel free to create a thread about it and list all the times I have wronged you. I am not the owner of DG Trials, just a concerned drift enthusiast.

[90kacoupe]

hey guys lets stop with all the fighting we will not get anywhere like this.. patrick is a concerned drifter in the community. he has been around for a long time. No sense in jumping all over him. We all need to work together to get this facility back. A lot of stuff is going to change with in Tennessee Drift. Security and organization of the events will change drastically. We are trying to do what we can to get back on the NSS good side but right now we have to ride it out and try to prove to them that we arent just a bunch of punk kids. Which means we can't act like punk kids! When barry had his meeting with NSS they gave him the "oh crap here are more drifters" attitude. Barry did an incredible job of changing his outlook on drifters. After all of this we have punk kid come and act like and idiot and changed the tracks minds back to we are just punk kids. So instead of fighting on the forums and acting like little kids. Lets work together to help out the scene and get people to realize that drifters arent just punk kids we are adults that enjoy the sport and need a legal place to practice and compete.

[carmaniac1993]

Thanks for posting a PRIVATE Message in the public forum. That's real ethical. I was only trying to explain my point of view. Thank you for not addressing any of the points I made. I don't even know who you but if you have a personal problem with me please feel free to create a thread about it and list all the times I have wronged you. I am not the owner of DG Trials, just a concerned drift enthusiast.



Quit tryin to sound like a goddam profesional, when u just volenteer for DGtrials. No on is fucking blaming shit on DG so, if you're not making comments that have anything to do with TND season, info on the vandalists, or suggestions on how TND runs their events better then shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.

sorry jeremy

[5series_4_Me]

Cankles on DriftSTIL insists that NSS is open to everyone except TNRace and told me to stop commenting unless I was at the event. I wish he would come over here and share his sources....We know where I am getting my info from.


Whoa what??? Wtf? Really?

[Defcon86NWH]

Whoa what??? Wtf? Really?

He meant drift not race.

Carmaniac-Your post will help no one. Patrick has helped drifting in Tenn. more than you have so it's probably safe to say you should stay out if your gonna overreact and blow up on him. Like Jeremy said and you read it apparently there is no need to fight among ourselves.

[5series_4_Me]

He meant drift not race.

Carmaniac-Your post will help no one. Patrick has helped drifting in Tenn. more than you have so it's probably safe to say you should stay out if your gonna overreact and blow up on him. Like Jeremy said and you read it apparently there is no need to fight among ourselves.


Ooooo ok. Lol, that makes more sense...hahahah

[skylinesx]

hey guys lets stop with all the fighting we will not get anywhere like this.. patrick is a concerned drifter in the community. he has been around for a long time. No sense in jumping all over him. We all need to work together to get this facility back. A lot of stuff is going to change with in Tennessee Drift. Security and organization of the events will change drastically. We are trying to do what we can to get back on the NSS good side but right now we have to ride it out and try to prove to them that we arent just a bunch of punk kids. Which means we can't act like punk kids! When barry had his meeting with NSS they gave him the "oh crap here are more drifters" attitude. Barry did an incredible job of changing his outlook on drifters. After all of this we have punk kid come and act like and idiot and changed the tracks minds back to we are just punk kids. So instead of fighting on the forums and acting like little kids. Lets work together to help out the scene and get people to realize that drifters arent just punk kids we are adults that enjoy the sport and need a legal place to practice and compete.

I agree. Hopefully the people at NSS don't frequent this forum or I doubt we'll ever get it back...

[Jeremy S.]

I was so looking forward to this season. I hate how these people give not only teens, like me (18), but also drifters a bad name.

[5series_4_Me]

I was so looking forward to this season. I hate how these people give not only teens, like me (18), but also drifters a bad name.

Wtf are you talking about? Drifters have always had a bad name...

[stlcankles]

Cankles on DriftSTIL insists that NSS is open to everyone except TNRace and told me to stop commenting unless I was at the event. I wish he would come over here and share his sources....We know where I am getting my info from.

go read the seda forums. their series event at the road course is still on and they have talked to NSS. also i said gateway was fine because i have heard the edgar is still able to run his event in august. so the source of my information is from the other organizations that will still be able to host events. feel better now?????????

[Jeremy S.]

Wtf are you talking about? Drifters have always had a bad name...


Just saying this doesn't seem to help us out any...

[trytoslide]

Wtf are you talking about? Drifters have always had a bad name...
Generally its people like you and spoolie that give drifters a bad name. Why dont you guys stop being part of the problem and let us sort this out?

[Frank]

This sounds like the drift mechaniks tshirt- "all of the drama, some of the drifting".

[5series_4_Me]

Lol...damn guys I was kidding ;) haha...usually the drifters are the most sarcastic ones...lol

[85rx-7gsl-se]

go read the seda forums. their series event at the road course is still on and they have talked to NSS. also i said gateway was fine because i have heard the edgar is still able to run his event in august. so the source of my information is from the other organizations that will still be able to host events. feel better now?????????

Yes thank you.

[Black240SX]

Okay, people attacking Patrick need to back the fuck up and realize who they are talking to. He has been doing this longer than anyone here and knows what he is talking about. He is trying to help.

Fucking bickering amongst each other isn't getting shit done so people need to quit bitching and find ways to help.

Quit speculating who did it and start looking for other venues. This thread is ridiculous. Instead of working to a better end there is nothing but stupid bs arguing and pissing contests. Seriously people.

TND and other organizations and people like Patrick, are trying their best to make sure we can get passed this whole fiasco and move on.

TND isn't drifting at NSS until further notice, no one knows for sure if it's JUST TND or other organizations as well. If that's the case, it's a bummer and we need to move on, if not then at least people will get to drive there. Obviously this will change a lot of things in the way events are run, but it needed to happen sooner or later I guess. It will be better in the end if people quit complaining and help.

If you want to help, email Barry and find out how.

Now stop tossing blame and dropping names and accusations and do something constructive... dammit.

/rant

[Defcon86NWH]

Okay, people attacking Patrick need to back the fuck up and realize who they are talking to. He has been doing this longer than anyone here and knows what he is talking about. He is trying to help.

Fucking bickering amongst each other isn't getting shit done so people need to quit bitching and find ways to help.

Quit speculating who did it and start looking for other venues. This thread is ridiculous. Instead of working to a better end there is nothing but stupid bs arguing and pissing contests. Seriously people.

TND and other organizations and people like Patrick, are trying their best to make sure we can get passed this whole fiasco and move on.

TND isn't drifting at NSS until further notice, no one knows for sure if it's JUST TND or other organizations as well. If that's the case, it's a bummer and we need to move on, if not then at least people will get to drive there. Obviously this will change a lot of things in the way events are run, but it needed to happen sooner or later I guess. It will be better in the end if people quit complaining and help.

If you want to help, email Barry and find out how.

Now stop tossing blame and dropping names and accusations and do something constructive... dammit.

/rant


This needs a quote to make people read it twice.

[civilized_drifter]

Okay, people attacking Patrick need to back the fuck up and realize who they are talking to.
i respect patrick for everything that he has done for the tennessee drifers. he was one of the first people i met at my first drift event the same with struka.

[trytoslide]

hey guys lets stop with all the fighting we will not get anywhere like this.. patrick is a concerned drifter in the community. he has been around for a long time. No sense in jumping all over him. We all need to work together to get this facility back. A lot of stuff is going to change with in Tennessee Drift. Security and organization of the events will change drastically. We are trying to do what we can to get back on the NSS good side but right now we have to ride it out and try to prove to them that we arent just a bunch of punk kids. Which means we can't act like punk kids! When barry had his meeting with NSS they gave him the "oh crap here are more drifters" attitude. Barry did an incredible job of changing his outlook on drifters. After all of this we have punk kid come and act like and idiot and changed the tracks minds back to we are just punk kids. So instead of fighting on the forums and acting like little kids. Lets work together to help out the scene and get people to realize that drifters arent just punk kids we are adults that enjoy the sport and need a legal place to practice and compete.
Well said jeremy. Let me know if there is anything i can do to help out. I've been in a funk every since i heard about this.

[satalac]

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[Swann]

i didnt take the time to read this entire thread, but i gotta say i hate it for you TNDrift guys. NSS seemed to be a great venue, parking lot and infield. if the bridge is burned, that shit blows. theres always a select few dipshits that dont take into consideration what grassroots drifting organizations are trying to do.
TNDrift, dont let this get you down or stop you. a tracks a track. its all in what you make it. just make it clear online and off that you guys are trying to grow this sport and the drivers participating.
as for NSS, its kinda hard for me to believe the owner when he says he doesnt ever want drifting there again. as rapidly as this sports growing and with all the sponsorships and endorsements that are getting on board, itd essentially be bad for business.

anyway, there always the 2010 NOS Energy Drink/Midwest Drift Union season... :angel:

keep your chin up bro's, shit happens and morons like that need to be weeded out every once in a while, just sucks it had to be under such drastic measures.

[T3AM SPOTLIT3]

wow dam i got to get hood with this one
(dis is so fucking returded)
hope tnd found a new place soon man good luck tho

[TNdrifter905]

Wouldn't be suprised if it was some dumb kids from LHS or WCHS...

i highly dout WCHS kids did this.. cause i go there and it was only my and austen and some guy at my school who drives a honda accord there

[TNdrifter905]

and any new stuff about events?

[5series_4_Me]

DRIFTARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i

[alex37211]

rumor has it we're going back to the fairgrounds

[Defcon86NWH]

I would love for that to happen Alex.

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[TNdrifter905]

yeah iherd the same abou tthe fair grounds maybe event in may

[5series_4_Me]

Man I really want some doughnuts right about now...

[85rx-7gsl-se]

I am about to eat some Hostess Donettes Ahmed.

[5series_4_Me]

Omg man those are poor excises for REAL doughnuts...

[85rx-7gsl-se]

I know but I used to down a bag a day lol...They are still badass.

[5series_4_Me]

I know but I used to down a bag a day lol...They are still badass.


Ahahaha. Thats a bit unhealthy there sir. Yea those are just too awful to down no matter how bad they are...What am I saying, I'm a fatass I'm sure I could down them...haha

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Yeah this is the first I have had in about a month. I had to cut down on my addiction.

[5series_4_Me]

Yeah this is the first I have had in about a month. I had to cut down on my addiction.

Lol, I don't see how you were addicted to that stuff...

[85rx-7gsl-se]

The frosted donettes taste damn good. Hell one of my law professors liked them so much he would ask me for one every once it a while.

[5series_4_Me]

Lol your crazy man. Wow if your professor asks for them then you need to get some extra points for that haha.

13,000 very nice, sir. :biggthumpup:

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Haha I am on here way too damn much lol but thanks for the congrats. And they remind me of little chocolate Entenmanns doughnuts :)

[5series_4_Me]

Lol you and me both man! Hahaha. Entenmanns is pretty good, I'm not going to lie...