Hayabusa Motor...or equivalent

[SupraMario]

I'm looking for a motor, Hayabusa or something that has about the same power output. Where should I look? I really don't trust ebay...

Is there a bike junkyard or something around TN?

[Mitch Detailed]

d16z6's have about the same output ;)

[Turbo vw]

just a shot in the wall i know the old suzuki GS1100 have a desent backing for performanc (motors have been used a lot in drag race bikes) also u have rotarys and i herd tell the 1uzfe from the ls400/sc400 lexus's arnt extremly heavy but i garenty there heavyer than a busa 1300 lol but as for bike motors i cant thank of much that would stand near the busa 1300 exspecly boosted

[BadAzzSentra]

Greens in Kentucky is a motorcycle junkyard.
Also I believe my friend has a 1000RR motor from a 06' CBR, that has very low miles on it. But I believe he wants it worth for it.

[GoFastGirl]

I was thinking about putting a Busa motor in my MG. What are you using yours for?
Oh, in shopping around the 4age, and Honda S2k motor all seem to be *about* the same size. Obviously a 4age is going to be cheaper than an s2k motor. The Busa seems to be the best. I think they race them in 1/4 midget cars and there is tons of aftermarket following.

[ZacCarter]

I was thinking about putting a Busa motor in my MG. What are you using yours for?
Oh, in shopping around the 4age, and Honda S2k motor all seem to be *about* the same size. Obviously a 4age is going to be cheaper than an s2k motor. The Busa seems to be the best. I think they race them in 1/4 midget cars and there is tons of aftermarket following.

FYI a 4age is only 1.6 liters and has a 5 speed gearbox. The s2k f-series comes in 2.0 and 2.2 configurations with a 6 speed gearbox. Both are different animals.

Does the MG have a driveshaft of is it chain driven? I know some of the smaller cars from that genre had chain driven rear differentials. It would be cool to see a busa motor in an MG.

[GoFastGirl]

Driveshaft. I've also seen 12a and 13b motors in them. I have a turbo laying around that I could boost the original motor with. Not sure what I want to do.

Same size as in physically the same size that will fit in my motor bay, not displacement wise.

[SupraMario]

Greens in Kentucky is a motorcycle junkyard.
Also I believe my friend has a 1000RR motor from a 06' CBR, that has very low miles on it. But I believe he wants it worth for it.

Could you get me a rough price on it?

I was thinking about putting a Busa motor in my MG. What are you using yours for?
Oh, in shopping around the 4age, and Honda S2k motor all seem to be *about* the same size. Obviously a 4age is going to be cheaper than an s2k motor. The Busa seems to be the best. I think they race them in 1/4 midget cars and there is tons of aftermarket following.

1978 Corolla DX, weighs right now about 2k lbs.
Well at this point I'm thinking this isn't going to happen, reason being as the transmission on the busa motor wouldn't hold up to the weight it needs to pull around. It also doesn't help that the trans is attached to the motor so I can't exactly use a different transmission. My goal was looking at a motor that would rev to 10-11k RPMs and be quick. At this point I'm all over the board with this build. I've considered at this point now, s2k motor, 4age-T motor, 2jzge (which I already have), a 1300cc bike motor, sr20...the list goes on. My main reason for running away from the 2jzge is the weight, this car would cry with that much weight up front and would prolly handle like poop too.

So yea... Brain storming.

A bike motor would sound nasty in this thing though.

[GoFastGirl]

I was wondering the same thing about the Busa transmission holding up in the MG. From what I understand, it will. There are also built versions of the tranny you can buy.

[SupraMario]

I was wondering the same thing about the Busa transmission holding up in the MG. From what I understand, it will. There are also built versions of the tranny you can buy.

This is what makes me think it would hold up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUH8S5wvK0M&feature=related

620kgs = 1366lbs

I'm not to shy of that with the rolla. I would put a cage in the car so I wouldn't die lol, but it would add more weight ><

[GoFastGirl]

I've seen where they are getting close to 400hp out of those motors on stock trannies. I think it'll hold.

[SupraMario]

I've seen where they are getting close to 400hp out of those motors on stock trannies. I think it'll hold.

Another issue I've got, Steering column, that car is RHD, this would be going into a LHD, the way the busa motor has it's tranny off to the right of the motor means I've gotta put the motor right at the steering column somehow or put the motor up high enough to miss the thing. Then it would be poking out of the hood.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

13B .... Enough said

[SupraMario]

13B .... Enough said

I would rather put magic leprechauns under the hood...:rofl:

[GoFastGirl]

Another issue I've got, Steering column, that car is RHD, this would be going into a LHD, the way the busa motor has it's tranny off to the right of the motor means I've gotta put the motor right at the steering column somehow or put the motor up high enough to miss the thing. Then it would be poking out of the hood.

I can't help you there without actually looking at it. I imagine it can be done, though.

[SupraMario]

I can't help you there without actually looking at it. I imagine it can be done, though.

If you look at how the motor is tilted on the golf in that video you will see what I'm talking about.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

I would rather put magic leprechauns under the hood...:rofl:

Haha well the 13B would meet your rev and weight requirements. But if you dont understand the rotary then yes you should avoid it lol

[SupraMario]

Haha well the 13B would meet your rev and weight requirements. But if you dont understand the rotary then yes you should avoid it lol

I understand rotary enough to know I don't want to fuck with one. Not saying it is a bad motor, just seems like a bad idea to start messing with one.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Different strokes for different folks situation. Plenty of people have had great success with them but if you arent into them you will likely become the next "horror" story.

[GoFastGirl]

Busa motor FTW. I'm trying to figure out the driveshaft to trans mount. Once I do, it's Busa motor for sure. So much power in such a small package. I like.

[SupraMario]

Different strokes for different folks situation. Plenty of people have had great success with them but if you arent into them you will likely become the next "horror" story.

This would be me...Its not that I don't like the motors I think they are a pure engineering feat, but I just don't feel like it would be a good motor for me.

Busa motor FTW. I'm trying to figure out the driveshaft to trans mount. Once I do, it's Busa motor for sure. So much power in such a small package. I like.

LOL, You gonna build it for me now? OR are you talking about your MG project?

[GoFastGirl]

Was talking about my MG project, but I have lots of free time. I'll build your project first. :)

[85rx-7gsl-se]

BTW...No reverse FTL lol

[SupraMario]

Was talking about my MG project, but I have lots of free time. I'll build your project first. :)

LOL, My Rolla is in rough shape, It is undergoing a body work out right now. It has a bit of rust around it. So welding is in order. My biggest concern about all this would be getting this motor and then the trans not holding up to it at all. That would kill me. Another thing is I'm trying to get ahold of some IS300 interior...yes I want this car to be luxury based and a good DD on top of it. I wander what the MPG would be?....get like 40-50 MPG would be awesome (no lead foot of course).

[SupraMario]

BTW...No reverse FTL lol

Yea this was a worry of mine, but that Golf has reverse. Gotta Email the company that did that swap and pick their brain.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

LOL, My Rolla is in rough shape, It is undergoing a body work out right now. It has a bit of rust around it. So welding is in order. My biggest concern about all this would be getting this motor and then the trans not holding up to it at all. That would kill me. Another thing is I'm trying to get ahold of some IS300 interior...yes I want this car to be luxury based and a good DD on top of it. I wander what the MPG would be?....get like 40-50 MPG would be awesome (no lead foot of course).


Yeah...IDK about trying to daily drive this thing seeing as the Busa engine makes like 100 ftlbs of torque at 7000rpm. While that should move a 2000lb car alright trying to daily that seems like a PITA. Would be better off going with a F20/22C IMO.

[GoFastGirl]

I wonder if you could put a Goldwing or Victory Vision transmission on it. I think they have reverse and they are freakin BEASTS.

[GoFastGirl]

Also, Because you ahve to rev the piss out of the engine to make it go anywhere, I doubt you'd get 40-50 mpg. I could be wrong though.

[SupraMario]

Yeah...IDK about trying to daily drive this thing seeing as the Busa engine makes like 100 ftlbs of torque at 7000rpm. While that should move a 2000lb car alright trying to daily that seems like a PITA. Would be better off going with a F20/22C IMO.

Yep this is another thing I'm worried about, trying to move at 4k RPM just to get going would be crazy, constantly reving out the roof.

S2k Motor is still a bit pricey for this swap. I've found a few 4age's on http://pandagarage.com/products/engines.html
$1250 for a Silver top...Would be nice to find one at pullapart. That or an SR20.

[GoFastGirl]

What about a KA24? Gonna be honest though, 4age would be the easiest I imagine. Plus they are pretty buildable. I'm sure there are a few in the PAP's around town. Also, someone on Craigslist may have a car for sale and not know what is in it. You might get lucky and pick up the whole rig for $500 or so.

[GoFastGirl]

Dude, what about a diesel motor?

[SupraMario]

What about a KA24? Gonna be honest though, 4age would be the easiest I imagine. Plus they are pretty buildable. I'm sure there are a few in the PAP's around town. Also, someone on Craigslist may have a car for sale and not know what is in it. You might get lucky and pick up the whole rig for $500 or so.

I've been watching Pullapart like a hawk. CL is not an option because every drifter fanboi is looking for a AE86. So trying to find a 4age is a bit on the rare side.

Dude, what about a diesel motor?

If I was going diesel I would go 4X4 VW Rabbit.

[Roman]

4g63?

















:rofl:

[GoFastGirl]

I've been watching Pullapart like a hawk. CL is not an option because every drifter fanboi is looking for a AE86. So trying to find a 4age is a bit on the rare side.



If I was going diesel I would go 4X4 VW Rabbit.


You are one picky dude. Everyone else here just throws anything they can find in any car they can find. Here you are thinking this out and stuff. Uncool.

[SupraMario]

Carina 1983-1985 (Japan only)
Carina 1985-1988 (Japan only)
Carina 1988-1992 (Japan only)
Celica 1983-1985
Celica 1985-1989
AE82/86 Corolla 1983-1987
AE92 Corolla 1987-1993
Corona 1983-1985 (Japan only)
Corona 1985-1988 (Japan only)
MR-2 1984-1989
AE82/86 Sprinter 1983-1987 (Japan only)
AE92 Sprinter 1987-1992 (Japan only)
Chevrolet Nova (based on Corolla AE82)
Geo Prizm GSi (based on Toyota AE92 chassis) 1990–19
Carina 1996-2001 (Japan only)
Corolla 1991-2000 (Japan only)
Corolla Ceres 1991-1998 (Japan only)
Sprinter 1991-1998 (Japan only)
Sprinter Marino 1991-1998 (Japan only)

grabbed this list from google on the 4age is this about right or is it missing a few?

[GoFastGirl]

Geo Prism is probably going to be your best bet. or a Chevy Nova. What about a Geo Metro motor with a turbo?

[SupraMario]

http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/1798364350.html

Is it??? I can't tell ROFL! Agg!

Looking for Geo Motor next.

[GoFastGirl]

I had a Corolla just like that. It doesn't have the 4age. It has a 4afe, but it was a good motor. Could be built I suppose.

[SupraMario]

NO 4AGE or Bust! LOL

[GoFastGirl]

What about a BMW motor?

[SupraMario]

They look ugly.

[shifty35]

I'd go for the Busa motor.

The car stunt show they do at Disney World - they have these stunt cars running Busa motors with custom transmissions - 4 forward gears AND 4 reverse gears, lol!

[SupraMario]

ROFL 4 Reverse gears would be funny as hell! 80mph backwards!

[shifty35]

ROFL 4 Reverse gears would be funny as hell! 80mph backwards!

Yeah, it's nuts. Jumping cars backwards and crazy, crazy stuff.

[GoFastGirl]

It may be the coolest thing Disney has ever made.

[SupraMario]

So I should call up Disney and get them to send me a motor huh?
LOL

[GoFastGirl]

What about an electric motor?

[SupraMario]

What about an electric motor?


NO!

I like my carbon foot print.

[GoFastGirl]

Rubber bands? Gerbils? That's all I got...

[SupraMario]

Rubber bands? Gerbils? That's all I got...

I had Squirrels in my mind for a bit.

[Turbo vw]

1uzfe that is all end thred

[SupraMario]

1uzfe that is all end thred

HELLL NO! :rofl:

[GoFastGirl]

Possible to mate a Busa motor to s standard type transmission? You'd lose sequential, but gain reverse....

[ZacCarter]

I beleive quafie made a gear box for the busa at one time. It was a dog box so I'm sure it wasn't cheap.

[SupraMario]

Possible to mate a Busa motor to s standard type transmission? You'd lose sequential, but gain reverse....

Was that a Question or a statement?

I beleive quafie made a gear box for the busa at one time. It was a dog box so I'm sure it wasn't cheap.

Yea a custom dog box trans would be hella expensive.

[GoFastGirl]

Is* it possible.... It was a question.

[SupraMario]

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/articletype/articleview/articleid/1519/project-miatabusa-part-1-what-the-hell-we-are-thinking.aspx

Reading now...

[Carfreak70852]

Damn it Mario. Put a damn 1jz in it and be done with it. Nice DD motor with some boost (no need to up the boost or anything). That would make a fun corolla.

[SupraMario]

Damn it Mario. Put a damn 1jz in it and be done with it. Nice DD motor with some boost (no need to up the boost or anything). That would make a fun corolla.

ROFL, I know I know, this is a project so I'm betting I'll have 3 motors before I finally have one that goes into it ROFL.

Seriously though, 11k RPM redline is SEX

[GoFastGirl]

It gets annoying in a DD. Just saying.

[SupraMario]

It gets annoying in a DD. Just saying.

Anything that goes into this thing will be classified as "annoying"
1jzgte or 2jzge or anything with 6 cylinders = way to heavy for the car and will make it a pain in the ass to drive.
4age = slow unless I turbo it, and in that case I would, but delima comes in finding one ><
busa motor = 11k RPM and means I would have to drive around at like 5K RPM to move the car anywhere LOL

It's a project that will end up being a DD, so as all projects go, there really is no time limit cash limit or set plan. Everything Always changes.

[GoFastGirl]

H4 motor?

[SupraMario]

LOL, now you're just tossing motors out there. I'll get me a motor from a light weight aircraft :P

[satalac]

Wind sails.

[SupraMario]

Wind sails.


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_02/topgear2KNP2006_468x322.jpg

[satalac]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_02/topgear2KNP2006_468x322.jpg

Exactly. And since you like having a carbon footprint, you can just take the gas that you would have used and pour it all out onto the road. Or a bald eagles nest.

[SupraMario]

Exactly. And since you like having a carbon footprint, you can just take the gas that you would have used and pour it all out onto the road. Or a bald eagles nest.

I was thinking just burn tires and diesel while I sail around.

[Mr-x]

http://www.necycle.com/pages/dealers/tennessee.html

I have had great luck finding older bike parts at geralds in grey,tn(he had parts for my old ts 185 before i sold it)

[Turbo vw]

1uzfe with ITB's enuf sed now do work