View Full Version : Drifting at IA - How was it?
racedaygraphics
07-19-2010, 10:43 AM
We had a great car turn out. We had a great event. Props to IA for helping us get back out there to the NSS.
Give us some feedback and post up some pics! What did you think of Tennessee Drift at the Nashville Super Speedway?
nismojunkie
07-19-2010, 11:39 AM
The only car I saw link the whole corse was the battleground s14...which was amazing...I really think that course is amazing...I can't wait to get my car on it...there was a lot of good drifters and some learning...so I say A+ on it.
Black240SX
07-19-2010, 12:04 PM
I had fun despite having a big power issue for the first 3/4s of the day. I would do it again for sure though. I did not like that we had to park on the inside. I had my stuff set up in a spot and some dude parked there locked his car and walked away for most of the day. Next time if the drivers could park elsewhere that would be much better. Or at least have a separate parking marked off some how.
DAtIntegra35
07-19-2010, 12:09 PM
I never really thought drifting was cool until Saturday. That was really the first drift event I have seen in person and I actually enjoyed it.
*imprezziveWRX*
07-19-2010, 12:21 PM
orange s14 and the pink silvia were my fav
silver s2k = fail
DumpedDuce
07-19-2010, 12:32 PM
Seen the battleground s14 and the pink s15 killing it linking the whole course. Course wasn't so great but it was very entertaining and would love to get out there next time.
*imprezziveWRX*
07-19-2010, 12:39 PM
the guys in the silvia asked if i wanted to ride but i didn't bring my helmet with me. so bummed....
dakar318
07-19-2010, 01:01 PM
seemed like a power course.
not good for noobs. but hey id pay 90 to drift there then the damn speedway that kills 1 car per event lol
and and and.... they have garages lol
StormTrooper325i
07-19-2010, 01:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOMVGBH_QdE
I would have liked to have a better view of the entire course. But from where I was at I got to see the best of it. Videos I took are from behind the fence, I cant figure out how to upload in higher res so I only did the one.
It was super awesome. It is a larger course where driver experience will have to make up for lack of power. It's still a track where people can learn though, and the drivers can be a bit more daring as well as there aren't walls waiting in every corner if something goes wrong. It was a bit harder to see everything since the track is more spread out. The view from the large bleachers may have been better. I was loving the entries coming off the main straight into the first corner. Good stuff.
trytoslide
07-19-2010, 03:32 PM
Man i HATE i missed this!!!! damn blown engines! got a redtop sr20 im in the process of installing right now so hopefully i'll be ready by next month. the track looked like a blast though. sure everyone had a good time too. barry,jeremy i'll be seeing you guys and everyone else soon. bummer there's not gonna be a pro-am this month.
WynnS123
07-19-2010, 03:42 PM
We had a great car turn out. We had a great event. Props to IA for helping us get back out there to the NSS.
Give us some feedback and post up some pics! What did you think of Tennessee Drift at the Nashville Super Speedway?
Awesome! You guys put on a great show. I'll have to drift the s2k next time...
pittyinSC
07-19-2010, 04:46 PM
Ahh I'm disappointed I missed a photo opportunity like this. I've always wanted the a drift event to be used inside the speedway, but have never seen it before. Even though I am in Europe this would have been cool to see!
smittyjs
07-19-2010, 05:40 PM
I enjoyed watching it alot, had a good time
901Jay
07-19-2010, 07:57 PM
The guy in the 4 door M3 failed...hard.
5series_4_Me
07-19-2010, 08:54 PM
The guy in the 4 door M3 failed...hard.
Lol the black one?
What happened?
901Jay
07-19-2010, 09:02 PM
Lol the black one?
What happened?
Almost put it in the wall MULTIPLE times. I mean I give the guy props because he did keep trying. But damn you don't go out drifting in a brand new 4 door M3, especially after you almost put it in the wall more than once lmao.
my_friend_bobby
07-19-2010, 09:19 PM
i enjoyed it, going to try and work the kinks out in my car.
Gotta start somewhere. However, most people don't start in a new BMW...
But if you have the money, why not?
my_friend_bobby
07-19-2010, 09:28 PM
yea just like that one guy in the 350z with drive off tags on it last year i believe
5series_4_Me
07-19-2010, 09:29 PM
O snap an e92??? LOL i thought it was an e36 or something...well SHIT! haha
StormTrooper325i
07-19-2010, 09:55 PM
The guy in the 4 door M3 failed...hard.
this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHBMhF8xZFc
aye bee
07-19-2010, 10:25 PM
wish i could have drove..... or been there hahaha. more tnd events at TSS now barry?
5series_4_Me
07-19-2010, 10:49 PM
this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHBMhF8xZFc
I dont think so. Apparently, the one he's talking about is an e92
But the one in the vid did sound really good tho haha
jstrobs21
07-19-2010, 11:53 PM
Awesome event. I think it went really well. Can't wait to see some more pics and vids. I do have to agree with Yoshi on the parking though... very strange.
revel
07-20-2010, 01:45 AM
i had a blast....kinda hard not to on the NSS road course. overall it was a good time, but i have to say it was very poorly run. it seemed that TND was there for the tech and drivers meeting, then the NSS workers took over from there. i am guessing it was their first time running a drift event. i understand being concerned with safety for drivers, passengers, and spectators........but they were waiting until cars had finished the course or had gotten half way back to pit lane before sending another car. that lead to over 20+ min of wait time between runs. most drivers were pushing their cars while in line to keep them from heating up while waiting to run. the NSS workers were also quite persistent about pushing riders into cars and not letting one rider stay in a car for more than 3 runs. kind of annoying and distracting.
again i had fun and overall the event was good, but either the NSS workers need to learn how to run an event better, or TND needs to step up and run the event. also completely agree on the drivers having their own section to park that is either separate from the car show or somehow blocked off so peoples spots arent taken or obscured by the show goers.
also why the heck did it get shut down at 4pm....seemed really early to shut it down.
just my thoughts. i was the guy in the multicolor s13.
Black240SX
07-20-2010, 08:26 AM
Yeah the whole ride along deal I'm not crazy with. Don't get me wrong I don't mind at all giving rides, I enjoy it. But the whole forcing ride along deals is not really how I want to do it. I had one run alone that day which is fine with me but I couldn't take my friends for rides that wanted them. When I told them I was going to take my girlfriend for a ride next time around they told me no you are taking this guy then you can take your girl friend. That kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Needless to say I took my girlfriend for a ride the next time around despite them trying to put another rider in my car. Yes they paid for a ride a long but they didn't pay me so I should be able to take who ever I want. I like the way it is handled at other events. Riders pay for a ride along pass then they walk up and down the line and ASK for a ride along. Yes it is possible that they may not get a ride but if they ask enough people they WILL get one. That way it is up to them how many rides they get. I will never turn down a person asking for a ride as long as A. I'm not still getting used to the track or B. I'm taking a friend for a ride.
nismojunkie
07-20-2010, 08:46 AM
^^^i wasn't even driving but I'm going to be damned if someone I don't know is just gonna be riding with me...I mean I'm new...I haven't gotten to enter into a event yet but I know I'm going to fail horribly and I def don't want some person in my car while I'm trying to figure out the track...and yeah the pits were horrible...when we go to events we bring our tool boxes, chairs, food, drink, and soon a tent and all that and if people are parking where we set up that jus causes problems that didn't need to be there. So I agree with separate "pit" parking...the "pit" should be a "no car" zone...except for drivers. Now if spectators are in the pits, well. That's fine with me
SupraMario
07-20-2010, 08:47 AM
Yeah the whole ride along deal I'm not crazy with. Don't get me wrong I don't mind at all giving rides, I enjoy it. But the whole forcing ride along deals is not really how I want to do it. I had one run alone that day which is fine with me but I couldn't take my friends for rides that wanted them. When I told them I was going to take my girlfriend for a ride next time around they told me no you are taking this guy then you can take your girl friend. That kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Needless to say I took my girlfriend for a ride the next time around despite them trying to put another rider in my car. Yes they paid for a ride a long but they didn't pay me so I should be able to take who ever I want. I like the way it is handled at other events. Riders pay for a ride along pass then they walk up and down the line and ASK for a ride along. Yes it is possible that they may not get a ride but if they ask enough people they WILL get one. That way it is up to them how many rides they get. I will never turn down a person asking for a ride as long as A. I'm not still getting used to the track or B. I'm taking a friend for a ride.
Wait??? They were forcing you guys to take riders? WTF? You paid to drift, then someone else paid NSS to ride along and you where forced to take them? WTF type of shit is that....
silver350tn
07-20-2010, 09:24 AM
I've been forced to get out of a friends car that usually enters every competition more than once. Actually the guys that stand up at the starting line have made me get out about 5 times and told my friend that he HAS to take the people standing up there for a ride. I PAID for a ride along too and the people standing up there waiting for a ride I'm positive they get to go for more rides than I do. Honestly that's why I haven't entered my car yet. No one is goin to tell me I have to take someone I don't even know for a ride ESP if I'm still trying to learn my car and or course. I don't trust random people that usually aren't in cars while they drift, what if they cause me to wreck? It's not like they are going to pay to fix it. My friend told me one of the randoms almost grabbed his shifter mid-drift. Yeah fuck that.
sigurd
07-20-2010, 09:28 AM
Have only one seat in your drift car..... profit.
BURN UNIT
07-20-2010, 10:11 AM
Pushing the issue with any kind of ride-a-long (forcing, basically) is downright stupid, and dangerous. I've never let anyone ride with me at a track event that I didn't know, and it isn't about to start. Was IA going to be responsible, should a driver wreck his car, and the passenger that they allowed to ride with is injured? Are they going to protect the owner of the vehicle from being sued by someone that is injured, while they're at the wheel? Didn't think so?
If they had tried that crap on Sunday, I would have parked my car and refused to run... Ride-a-longs are an option, and it'd rediculous that they were charging riders to ride in cars in which the drivers had not been paid, or were aware of what precautions/insurance IA would provide, in case of a mishap.
Stupidity.
satalac
07-20-2010, 10:21 AM
So if you refused to take a driver do you get your money refunded? What a horrible idea. If they want to grow drifting, this is NOT the way to do it. Why not make two categories? The first one is a bit more money, but you get to drive alone, and the second one is a little less expensive but you have to take a ride-a-long (who also has to pay as well). Common sense people.
Mitch Detailed
07-20-2010, 10:40 AM
So if you refused to take a driver do you get your money refunded? What a horrible idea. If they want to grow drifting, this is NOT the way to do it. Why not make two categories? The first one is a bit more money, but you get to drive alone, and the second one is a little less expensive but you have to take a ride-a-long (who also has to pay as well). Common sense people.
i agree with your theory Sat, i was one that paid to ride along, but none of the people i rode with weren't disappointed or upset with me riding. i met black240sx, and a the kid with the gray s2000 when riding along.
all in all, it was a good experience, but i wasn't running around looking desperate for a ride either.
i also remember the main worker saying a lot of people are refusing, and he said, "well, problem is we cant force them to take a rider along..."
85rx-7gsl-se
07-20-2010, 10:40 AM
What color e92 was it? The only e92 M3 I saw Saturday was a blue one from Memphis.
85rx-7gsl-se
07-20-2010, 10:45 AM
Also how much was the entry fee to drift? And who was getting the ride along cash? IA or TND?
satalac
07-20-2010, 10:59 AM
i agree with your theory Sat, i was one that paid to ride along, but none of the people i rode with weren't disappointed or upset with me riding. i met black240sx, and a the kid with the gray s2000 when riding along.
all in all, it was a good experience, but i wasn't running around looking desperate for a ride either.
i also remember the main worker saying a lot of people are refusing, and he said, "well, problem is we cant force them to take a rider along..."
Well as long as they weren't actually forcing people, then it's ok. I would be pissed if that was what was going on though. I'm not against having ride-a-longs, it's a great way to get people interested, but only at the ok of the driver. Personally I'd be nervous with someone in the car with me, because not only do I have to worry about performing, but also the safety of the passenger. Maybe next time they can structure it a little bit differently.
M-Technic owner
07-20-2010, 11:24 AM
it was pretty sweet. got to ride along with the black s13 with the ls1 and it was fun as hell. asian dude in the orange 240 was killin it, and the kid in the green s14 did pretty good as well. the guy in the multicolored s13 coupe did pretty well. besides that the rest were ok, cept for the gold s14( which didnt get sideways the whole time i rode with him) the miata started terrible and ended a little better, the red 350 didnt do too hot either, but at least they got to do it.
im gonna try to be out there next year, but we'll see how that goes
vr4-kid92
07-20-2010, 11:53 AM
The drifting was so badass!!! The battleground ls1 240sx definately knew how to start off a drift event. I got the picture of the purple 240sx with flowers on it losing his bumper in mid drift. I got some really good pictures of the cars drifting. When i get the chance i'm going to post them on here. I'm definately going to have a car ready to do this next year.
M-Technic owner
07-20-2010, 01:00 PM
and the pics are where?...
nvm, i read to fast.
get the chance now and get them bitches up on here
jacobcartmill
07-20-2010, 01:02 PM
i wasn't impressed with the drifting stuff.
i liked the road racing.
vr4-kid92
07-20-2010, 03:19 PM
and the pics are where?...
nvm, i read to fast.
get the chance now and get them bitches up on here
They're on my girlfriends camera card and i can't get them to my computer. I'm trying
07SIdan
07-20-2010, 05:57 PM
What color e92 was it? The only e92 M3 I saw Saturday was a blue one from Memphis.
I didn't see a black m3 drifting either. They said it was a new e90. Not a coupe. I mean, I was one of maybe 20 M cars there saturday. Few e46's, some e36's, my coupe, I think there was a e30 car, a previous gen M5 and the interlagos e92.
Edit. I think he may be talking about the black e36 turbo, no bumper, green wheels, track one sticker on windshield.
skylinesx
07-20-2010, 06:01 PM
I had a great time, the tracks alot harder then it looks, Only my second time ever on this track and I am most def still a beginner, but i linked the infield (minus the big entry) a couple times even though the couple times I did i'm sure looked pretty rough. Hopefully we get to have more events at this venue, with more seat time on this course I think it will greatly help improve alot of us.
My only complaint is how poorly organized the IA event was organized in general. I was stuck in line for over an hour with my car on a trailer trying to explain to some 16 yr old kid that i had to be at tech in 30 min and they were holding me for no reason. Barry seems to have been the only one with his shit t/g and ran his part of the drift event very well as he always does. Thanks barry and whoever else stuck their neck out for us to let us use the track.
5series_4_Me
07-20-2010, 06:52 PM
I didn't see a black m3 drifting either. They said it was a new e90. Not a coupe. I mean, I was one of maybe 20 M cars there saturday. Few e46's, some e36's, my coupe, I think there was a e30 car, a previous gen M5 and the interlagos e92.
Edit. I think he may be talking about the black e36 turbo, no bumper, green wheels, track one sticker on windshield.
Were you the asain guy with the ///M shirt???
901Jay
07-20-2010, 08:03 PM
The guy in the black M3 didn't drift all day. It wasn't the Track One M3 either. It was an e9x 4 door M3
racedaygraphics
07-20-2010, 08:13 PM
WOW!! Thanks for all the comments! We must be doing something right. It also shows how much you guys care about drifting in Tennessee.
We are going to take a closer look at the ride along thing. I agree with almost everyone's posts about it. I'm not that crazy about it either but I think we have to include it in some fashion to help get more people intersted in out sport.
As far as the insurance (Burn Unit) YES. You are covered against personal injury and so is your passenger. Your car is not. You are taking part in a form of motorsport. Your car is your responsibility.
The parking thing did kind of turn into a kluster. We started out with our own pit area but it quickly got filled up because of the shear volum of cars attending the show. We will correct that in the future.
Would you guys like to get together, grab a bite to eat and talk about some of this stuff in more detail in a few days?
85rx-7gsl-se
07-20-2010, 08:25 PM
Barry ride alongs should be something which all drivers are encouraged to participate in but not be mandatory. Maybe get drivers who are willing to give strangers ride alongs to sign up for it ahead of time and give them some sort of incentive for their participation. Then let the rest just do the normal solo or buddy rides along if he pays.
AllGOnoSHOW
07-20-2010, 08:35 PM
I never really had an interest in drifting until I was up close and personal with the cars and the track at IA. It was incredible. I got to ride once (which is all I wanted) in the LS1 swapped 240. I had no idea how the ride along thing worked but I am sure glad I got a chance to partake in the drift stuff.
carmaniac1993
07-20-2010, 09:30 PM
hell im down for meeting on friday or somethin.
about the ride along stuff, i dont mind it to much but, i like drifting by myself alot. afterall, thats why im there. trying to work on my shit skills. pretty sure thats why most people are there
Mitch Detailed
07-20-2010, 10:48 PM
Barry ride alongs should be something which all drivers are encouraged to participate in but not be mandatory. Maybe get drivers who are willing to give strangers ride alongs to sign up for it ahead of time and give them some sort of incentive for their participation. Then let the rest just do the normal solo or buddy rides along if he pays.
completely agree, give them some sort of incentive to get them to let people ride-along, and this will promote more interest, more interest = more talk, more talk = more doing, more doing = bigger events.
tearlessj
07-20-2010, 11:41 PM
You guys must remember, SEAT TIME is the most important factor here. The driver should also control who and who doesn't ride in his car. You should hold events for the drifters and only the drifters.
Stop worrying about spectators and everything else. Let's get these drivers DRIVING. Sitting around waiting for drivers to go in pit lane was extremely frustrating. Most of the drivers had no clue what was going on 75% of the time. The track workers were also confused. Once the first car is 60% through the course, send the next guy! It should stay a steady flow of cars. Also, please get some run groups! I think someone else mentioned this at the last event. Run groups would help organize the entire event.
Just my 2 cents.
Is there going to be anymore road course events this year?
revel
07-21-2010, 12:42 AM
not sure if p. haire is on this forum (i think he is...not sure of username tho) he would be a great person to talk with. he knows how an event should be run, he has helped with many events, and he is a good person.
as for the newer model M sedan. i saw a black one. not the e36 that had a turbo conversion, this one had to be a 2009 or newer M sedan. looked fresh from the dealer and stock as could be. didnt get a chance to actually see him on the course, but saw him coming off the banks to get back in line a few times. had noticed the car earlier in the day and thought good lord thats brand freakin new....then saw him on pit lane while i was waiting in line for my next run......pretty damn ballsy of anyone to take a brand new car out drifting, let alone an M series sedan. props to that guy! hope he had fun and comes to more events cause i really want to see that thing drifting.
**edit**
it think was this model...it had the bump in the center of the hood...like this one atleast
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/02/2009_BMW_M3_Sedan_Silver.jpg
jacobcartmill
07-21-2010, 08:28 AM
the drifting should be setup like the autocross
Mitch Detailed
07-21-2010, 09:08 AM
the drifting should be setup like the autocross
yes. point to pass on the straight... :hammer:
85rx-7gsl-se
07-21-2010, 09:52 AM
the drifting should be setup like the autocross
How so?
opie240
07-21-2010, 12:20 PM
That was the first road corse that I've seen drifting on in person and I loved it.. I personally believe the purple S15 with the gold flowers(not 240sx) was doing better than the ls1 swap battleground car. Also did anyone get a video of the tandem run the battleground team did? We were leaving pit row as they were taking off and missed it..
Ride alongs can be a good thing but shouldnt be forced. I know when my car and I finally make it to an event, Yoshi is gonna have some passenger seat time haha
DAtIntegra35
07-21-2010, 04:00 PM
I think ride alongs are cool and I wish I woulda known because my girlfriend wanted to ride in one. Ride alongs shouldn't be forced. I think something should be set up to where if a driver is willing to give ride alongs to strangers then they can pay less money to drift than the drivers who want to have the car to themselves all day long.
Roman
07-21-2010, 04:16 PM
I was going to put my son in for a ride along because he REALLY wanted to go, but I don't think they would have let him because he's only 5, lol. Plus he probably would have pissed his pants. Maybe in a few more years.
jstrobs21
07-21-2010, 06:12 PM
I've been following this thread waiting for some pictures and videos and I see there is still some question about the M3. Hahaha. The who owns it is a good friend of mine. To clarify: it is a black E90. (2008 M3 Sedan). He, myself and the guy drifting the Miata had stayed up the entire night prior trying to get our 240 running, but were thwarted by one missed matched pully. I left our garage with the miata guy so we could make tech (I had all his tires... yeah, miata, not too much room in there). My bud with the M3 came later. I finally convinced him to register (which didn't take much because we were pissed we didn't finish the car in time). Yes he sucked, and he knows he sucked. But one, that car is very specifically set up to go fast, with maximum traction, also, that is how he drives it. (he should have registered for sunday and would have done muuuuch better). And two; it was his VERY FIRST time drifting. ever. not just that car. ever. So I don't care how shitty he did, that took balls to take that shiny bitch out there.
Parking - like I (and evvvveryone else here) said, retarded.
Ride Alongs - I think it should come down to the driver. There are going to be some drivers that just do not feel comfortable driving with someone else, or more importantly, someone they don't know. Also, many of the ride alongs don't want to ride with just whoever.. Most have a car (or a few) that they would like to. I think pushing people in cars wasn't just dissagreeing with the drivers, but the riders too..
And one more note ( I know I'm rambling now), it cant be held like autocross, or road-race where you can point to pass. Not all the cars are set up to be on the track with other cars.
All in all, I loved the event. I've been with TND since drift 1 and Barry, as always you did a great job pleasing as many people as you could and getting us TND's on the road course at NSS like you promised! Thanks a freaking million. With that said, IA can suck my balls. I've seen kindergardeners with better organizational skills (not like many of those orange shirtted dudes were much older than that, but whatever).
M-Technic owner
07-21-2010, 07:32 PM
yes there was a stock m3( i think) out there "drifting" for a short period of time.
i think after he whipped it around a couple times he gave up. with a few mods (including a more knowledgable driver) he coulda done pretty well but it wasnt the turboed e30 or the other one that was out there.
good times though. cant really say too much cuz i havent legally drifted, but. next summer will be badass, the asian in the rhd 240 will have more competition!
Mitch Detailed
07-21-2010, 10:43 PM
IA can suck my balls. I've seen kindergardeners with better organizational skills (not like many of those orange shirtted dudes were much older than that, but whatever).
yes. everything was the people who runs IA's fault. did TND mark off their location? no... maybe next year you will understand the mass amount of people who come to this event to do various things, it's not hard to block off an area, especially if you let them know ahead of time. it's not that hard...
jstrobs21
07-22-2010, 07:17 AM
That comment wasn't directed towards the drift-parking situation but OK. I guess I'm the retard here.
Mitch Detailed
07-22-2010, 11:22 AM
That comment wasn't directed towards the drift-parking situation but OK. I guess I'm the retard here.
i'm not saying your the retard but ya gotta understand all lines of communication. i am 100% positive that there could have been a dedicated parking lot for you guys, there was for the autox'ers on sunday...
Graphicsman
07-22-2010, 11:26 AM
i was stunned over that lexus i saw out there. I do also think he broke something and was towed in if i recall
EDIT: i am also sorry about the parking, it was messed up and confusing for us about what was going on
BURN UNIT
07-26-2010, 09:29 AM
If there is a track day (HPDE) open and planned for next year within IA, I would like to volunteer to assist in getting drivers out onto the course, working tech, etc... I am planning on being there next year, and would like to see a smooth event with as little confusion as possible.
nismojunkie
07-26-2010, 12:20 PM
If there is a track day (HPDE) open and planned for next year within IA, I would like to volunteer to assist in getting drivers out onto the course, working tech, etc... I am planning on being there next year, and would like to see a smooth event with as little confusion as possible.
This...but I'm going to be driving...
dakar318
07-27-2010, 08:49 AM
dude trying to get the IA guys to do anything was kind of rough. their main concerns is about the check point and traffic and your money.
wynn had trouble sunday w/ hpde before even getting into the speedway.
the pit road was blocked pretty well sunday and there was ample parking behind pit wall... could the drifters not have done the same?
WynnS123
07-28-2010, 12:24 AM
I had pit road blocked so all the hpde guys could park there. It was much easier to orchestrate everything with everyone right there.
skylinesx
07-28-2010, 01:57 AM
WOW!! Thanks for all the comments! We must be doing something right. It also shows how much you guys care about drifting in Tennessee.
We are going to take a closer look at the ride along thing. I agree with almost everyone's posts about it. I'm not that crazy about it either but I think we have to include it in some fashion to help get more people intersted in out sport.
As far as the insurance (Burn Unit) YES. You are covered against personal injury and so is your passenger. Your car is not. You are taking part in a form of motorsport. Your car is your responsibility.
The parking thing did kind of turn into a kluster. We started out with our own pit area but it quickly got filled up because of the shear volum of cars attending the show. We will correct that in the future.
Would you guys like to get together, grab a bite to eat and talk about some of this stuff in more detail in a few days?
I'd be down to meet up and talk about how to improve the events if i was where I could get down to nashville on a saturday or sunday.
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