S14 drift and auto x build - seeking opinions

[Johnny_K]

Alright guys im new to the S- chassis and had a few questions for ya.

I wanted to build a car for drifting and autocrossing.

Here is what I had in mind

For suspension - I thought about Stance GR+ coilovers. 240sx motoring has them for $1129. Would you recommend any other coils for around this price and can you think of another place that might have a better price?
- I also thought about getting Stance, traction rod, rear tie rod, UCA and tension rods. < is all this really needed for what I want to build the car for? This kit is priced at 776.

For Brakes – I'm thinking I will be getting z32 calipers, slotted rotors, stainless steel lines, hawk pads, and motul oil. Does anyone have any recommendations on rotors or pads?

Wheels adn tires are still TBD – but I’m thinking about running the stock 17’s up front and 350z 18 inch wheels in the back for drifting. Does anyone see a problem running 17’s up front and 18’s out back for drifting?

For interior I thought about the basic Sparco seat and harness. Also thinking about the nrg quick release, sparco steering hub and sparco steering wheel. Is there any other "value" seats out there and where could i get it?

The car already has LSD and i will be running the stock KA with a drop in filter and aftermarket exhaust.

Is there anything else i should add to the shopping list?

[aye bee]

for suspension, get everything from powered by max. all the parts they make are amazing, and the quality is very good. i have 90% of their suspension on my car. also look into getting steering rack spacers. they give you a little extra angle.
as for the brakes, z32's can be pricey. you can also use q45 front brakes as well. i have no problem with mine, and they were a major upgrade from stock.
for wheels, find about a 17x9 for all for with a 10-20 offset. you can fit almost any size tire on a 9" wheel. and i run 18" z wheels in the back when i drift because i got them for cheap. if i had some 16, or 20s, i would run them haha. its just what i have laying around. also get a sticky front tire like an azenis 615 or a kdw2. and just throw whatever you can find on the rear haha.
for the interior, take the spring out of your ebrake handle so it doesnt lock unless you pull out on it. it helps tremendously. and if you have the money, you can get a steering wheel, and a harness, but they arent really necessary. as for a seat, if you are looking for an approved seat go with sparco, but if you want a little cheaper option, you can get a knockoff bride lomax seat (its what i did, but i couldnt beat the price and it feels really good)
stock lsd's tend to wear out too. so you can shim it, or find a open diff and get it welded.
make sure you got a solid motor first. make sure its not leaking, timing chanins and guides are good, not burning oil, etc...

thats just my .02. lulz.

[aye bee]

oh, and the main suspension parts you want to worry about first are the front tension rods, tire rods/end, RUCAs, and rear toe rods. they are probably the most important.
www.poweredbymax.net
^^check their stuff out

[Johnny_K]

^ ah thank you. Looks like the price of powered by max is affordable 2, how are they on shipping and customer service? Can their coils go low?

As for 350z wheels, i think i can get them pretty cheap so that's why i considered them. I'm trying to stay with odd size wheels as they are usually cheaper. I thought 16's would be too small.

Care to show me how drifting is done when i get it ready?

[Johnny_K]

oh what about do you think about the hydro ebrake mod?

[bradley]

for the price of some PBM stuff you're veering towards SPL pricing as well. SPL parts will run you about 20$ more a piece, but if you buy the set or just multiple arms, it's likely the guys at SPL can give you like a 10% off or something to help compete with PBM pricing.

I'd recommend looking into them as well, not because PBM's stuff isn't worthy (it is damn good,) but I don't know how their replacement policy works (Something you should consider when putting track abuse on any automotive part).

With SPL you can upgrade ANY of your parts to a newer bushing or even a newer version when they release for about 30-40$ a pair, not to mention some of the stoutest mounting forks and spherical bushings I've ever seen on any suspension arms.

www.splparts.com

It's money.

[aye bee]

^ ah thank you. Looks like the price of powered by max is affordable 2, how are they on shipping and customer service? Can their coils go low?

As for 350z wheels, i think i can get them pretty cheap so that's why i considered them. I'm trying to stay with odd size wheels as they are usually cheaper. I thought 16's would be too small.

Care to show me how drifting is done when i get it ready?

shipping and customer service is great. i have never had a problem with them.. and look at my car, is that low enough??! haha. and if you are running a stock KA then16s are not too small..

[aye bee]

oh, andf if you have the money for a hydro, they are worth it. but a "drift knob" on the ebrake will be fine.

[Johnny_K]

^ would it be easier to get it sideways with the hydro, cause it easier to use?

And looks like I can get stock 350z 18’s for $600, one of the wheels has a crack though. Good news is the tires are 2 wks old. Still trying to decide if they are worth it.

[aye bee]

honestly buy some rotas or sportmaxes for spares, or use stock 16" se wheels.
and yeah, hydros are great if you have the money for them. but that money could be used on tires/spare wheels/engine upgrade later on. if the stock ebrake locks, then i dont see a point in a HAVING to have a hydro.

[nismojunkie]

lots of good info here....i myself run alot of pbm parts because they are the best, no questions about it, they will make anything customers ask for with enough people buying it, and replacement parts....you can rebuild your coilover for herra cheap, but honestly your not going to have to worry about having problems with their parts.

brakes i think your on the right page there.

interior.....i dont really care alot about but as aaron said stock ebrake is fine....IF it will lock up, and a wheel is a real good idea too.

wheels yes cheap wheels to sstart out is a good thing and if your staying stock ka you wont be able to spin much bigger than a 16....just find some lexus wheels for cheap,m other 240 wheels, and anything thats cheap with tires....

i have a set of lexus wheels with good tires (16s) they are ugly but tires are good and would go a while on the track.

[Johnny_K]

Cool thxs, any other i should consider. Sounds like i just need seat time once i get the parts on.

[nismojunkie]

Nothing will replace seat time. Nothing.

[Frank]

You should drive your first even as stock as you can.

As for suspension arms : like all these guys have said, PBM or SLP parts. As for coilovers I would go with either PBM or Fortune Autos.

Ran out of time on my lunch, will Add more input later, if wanted.

[Johnny_K]

^ do want more info.

[aye bee]

johnny, do you have my number? hit me up..
also, if you want to come check out my jank ass drift car to get some ideas on things, or to check out some parts, let me know.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

What is your true goal? A drift car that you will auto-x for shits and giggles or a auto-x car that will be competitive that you will drift for shits and giggles?

[shifty35]

What is your true goal? A drift car that you will auto-x for shits and giggles or a auto-x car that will be competitive that you will drift for shits and giggles?

Apparently the former, because I'm pretty sure all the custom arms and steering mods will drop you in SM, or worse...

[Johnny_K]

What is your true goal? A drift car that you will auto-x for shits and giggles or a auto-x car that will be competitive that you will drift for shits and giggles?

I'm a competitive person by nature but this will be more for shits and giggles. I just want to get her side ways during the drift events and drive her hard in autox.

I'm just hoping the drift schedule stays current and doesnt have any cancellation, the autox events are pretty frequent.

[Johnny_K]

johnny, do you have my number? hit me up..
also, if you want to come check out my jank ass drift car to get some ideas on things, or to check out some parts, let me know.

cool, just sent you a PM. I can't wait to order some parts. Ordering parts, waiting for them to come is so much fun. Then of course the installs dont go the way you want and u get frustrated and want to break stuff. Modding cars - such a love hate realtionship for me.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Apparently the former, because I'm pretty sure all the custom arms and steering mods will drop you in SM, or worse...

See that was my thought.

I'm a competitive person by nature but this will be more for shits and giggles. I just want to get her side ways during the drift events and drive her hard in autox.

I'm just hoping the drift schedule stays current and doesnt have any cancellation, the autox events are pretty frequent.

Well the reason I ask because a car will very rarely be great at both. If you built it for drift you would likely will end up in a class where you simply wont be competitive.

The suspension setup between an auto-x and drift car are usually pretty different.

[Johnny_K]

So if i don't get this: front tension rods, tire rods/end, RUCAs, and rear toe rods. I would be put in a less competive class in autox?

[shifty35]

In the stock / street prepared classes, I don't think you can use non-standard suspension members that alter geometry. Those at least put you in street modified, which is kind of an "anything goes" street car class. Requires full interior, heater to be considered a street car.

SM is dominated by heavily modded Evos and such.

[Johnny_K]

^ what class are you in and do u get much seat time? i heard you have to stand around for awhile then your run is like 6 mins.

[shifty35]

My Miata is in CSP, and will never be competitive... building a competitive CSP car is a $20k project.

Depends on the day, how many people are there. At TRSCCA, we break into two run groups. One group runs, while the other works the course (picking up cones and such). There are two heats, so you'll work the course twice, and be in the group running twice.

Usually we'll do 7-8 runs per person, depending on the time. A good run will generally be < 60 seconds long, with the novices ending up in the 70s normally. All depends on the course.

[Johnny_K]

^ gotcha, appreciate the info.

[dakar318]

i have tein flexs.
battle version ruca, toe, traction,
tein tension
front power brace
cusco strut bars.
z32 front calipers
steel braided brake lines.

on my s14, but i dont think its a great handling car. its fun... HIGHLY versatile! ive autoxed, drag raced, drifted this thing... lots of fun but a good chunk of change for a 240

[Matt H.]

d-max coilovers are also a good alternative to PBM stuffs.
They retain a lot more comfort yet still can be set very stiff if that's the kind of thing you're into.
Stock springs are 8kg/6kg whereas the most popular PBM's (or windflowers racing) coilovers are 10kg/8kg.
Just my $.02 since you are looking for a multipurpose platform, the PBM's might have too stiff of a spring rate for autox.

[SHMEX]

Try these sites first. Enjuku, frsport, 240sxmotoring.com, and search around on ziliva.
never heard of anybody drifting staggered wheels like that. Normally its the opposite. 18s in front, 17s in read.

Tirewise, get some 995 federals, falken ziexs, kumho sports(i heard are decent). If you want a long lasting tire in the rear, et NEXEN n3000 har composition tires. ONe of my buddies that rides with Mulsanne runs those tires.

Also, you miiight have a tad bit of problem spinning 18s wth a ka. 17 at most is my suggestion.
Gett some xxr's for the track. 17 up front, 17 in the rear, or even 16 in the rear.

For coils, ive drifted with megans, and they work. i drove over 4000 miles on them and never once busted, and had 3 drift events on them. Thats excluding the illegals situations i got myself into in LA.

Suspension, def PBM. I had RUCAS on my s13, and its PURE BEEF. Their products are super duper legit. Try to get everything by them. They are a very decent product price wise as well.

What kind of exhaust are you getting? Circuit Sports, or Sonic Motor exhausts are legit. Sonic Motor is ran by the guy who first start 626 drift events up in SoCal. Also check their stores for coils, and the like. Very nice people, especially Denise, and very helpful.

[Matt H.]

:pirate: a ka will spin anything with enough tire pressure

[aye bee]

:pirate: a ka will spin anything with enough tire pressure

you and jeremy know all about that huh?

[Johnny_K]

Good info hear guys.

[dakar318]

kumho is closing out their 265 16 v710

[rx7 vinnie]

Johnny is gonna have me start his build.....he'll find another hobby and will sell it just like everything else. owned.

[dakar318]

oh and i read that that pick up points for the suspension have to be stock. so all the aftermarket arms are free

[SHMEX]

:pirate: a ka will spin anything with enough tire pressure
Definately truth to that.
Just better if you run stock 15s than some eighteens. Especially if youre just starting oout.

If and when you get coils, definately suggest TIEN inner and outters. They actually add to inches to steering, and are a little bit beefier than stock. And not to overpriced.

[Frank]

Or get PBMs inners with Tien outers! That is what I run.

[SHMEX]

Frank, how does that set-up run?

Also whats good about megans, are the spring rates to the streets. Not too stiff, definately not too soft. And 28 way adjustable dampening.

My buddy ran dmax, and if you likethe dumped look, then there probably not for you. He said even with the collars off, they barely went low enough.

[Frank]

I love it. Way better than stock but I still want to get PBM angle knuckles once I get this season under my belt.

I also have Megan coilovers. They are excellent street coilovers, and good entry level coilovers. You can't go wrong if your just beginning to drift. I plan on selling my set this winter and get a set of PBM or Fortune Autos.

The most important thing you need it track time. I'm a big advocate of doing you first few events as stock as possible.

[SHMEX]

The most important thing you need it track time. I'm a big advocate of doing you first few events as stock as possible.
^^^THIS!

I did one event COMPLETELY stock. Open diff, and lowering springs, and stock motor. It was my white s13 coupe wich i miss dearly.

MEgans are DEF the way to go. and for 750 800 bucks??? WHY not? Ive ridden in my friends coupe with stance...not impressed, at all. Same ride as my megans.

My buddy chuck, you probably seen his car... He has the puzzle hood, with teal pant. He just put the ANgle kit on a couple weeks ago and tried it out for the first time this past sunday. He saids they are excellent, and if you have bumpsteer problems its removes it completely.

[Johnny_K]

I love it. Way better than stock but I still want to get PBM angle knuckles once I get this season under my belt.

I also have Megan coilovers. They are excellent street coilovers, and good entry level coilovers. You can't go wrong if your just beginning to drift. I plan on selling my set this winter and get a set of PBM or Fortune Autos.

The most important thing you need it track time. I'm a big advocate of doing you first few events as stock as possible.

^^^THIS!

I did one event COMPLETELY stock. Open diff, and lowering springs, and stock motor. It was my white s13 coupe wich i miss dearly.

MEgans are DEF the way to go. and for 750 800 bucks??? WHY not? Ive ridden in my friends coupe with stance...not impressed, at all. Same ride as my megans.

My buddy chuck, you probably seen his car... He has the puzzle hood, with teal pant. He just put the ANgle kit on a couple weeks ago and tried it out for the first time this past sunday. He saids they are excellent, and if you have bumpsteer problems its removes it completely.


U guys talking about drifting or autocrossing?

[SHMEX]

Drifting...but from what i know, autocross you dont want the springs to be too stiff either right? for weight transition and all. But i know a couple friends run set ups as mentioned above on time attack courses as well as drift events.

Always good to do an event or two stock, to;
1. Get used to your car
2. To learn your cars movements, weight shifting ect.

Its always about tuning your car to the way you drive. Id say put a diff, and some coils on first.

Always make sure the motor is tip top as youll be revving the crap out of it though. I didnt do that for my coupe and its overheated like a boss. Drove fine, but still...dont wanna risk it ya know?

[Johnny_K]

It the SE model so it has LSD.

[nismojunkie]

Not all se models were LSD...

[aye bee]

Not all se models were LSD...

if it has abs, it has lsd.

[M-Technic owner]

2jz /thread ;-)

[nismojunkie]

Did he say it was abs? I didn't notice, nor re-read the first post lol.

[Johnny_K]

it does have abs, pics will be posted tomorrow.

[SHMEX]

You have the LSD. buuuut that Viscous jelly might be burnt out. How many miles on the Chassis. When its burnt out itll start acting like an open diff. But im sure itll be fine.

Easy way to check is jack up the car with out the ebrake on, and spin the wheel. if the other side spins ints a vlsd/.

Maybe think about looking into to purchasing an open and either weld it, or look into shimming it.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Welded diff equals fail for auto-x.

[SHMEX]

yeah forgot bout that. thats a def no go.

wats youre budget like? id recommend a 1.5way lsd for auotx/drift

[rx7 vinnie]

He ain't gonna buy shit....he's too into his gay ass camera. Qft

[Johnny_K]

^ o'rly .. what's this then?

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5220/5483080570_df74df9cc8_b.jpg

Will post more pics up later.

[Johnny_K]

More pics.

She's at the body now and will be worked on this wk, fenders and front will be worked on.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5015/5483525532_9b38210852_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5178/5483523952_c2d48d7975_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5051/5483527640_330686c263_b.jpg

[nismojunkie]

I hope you didn't give over 500 for that...

[rx7 vinnie]

What a piece Johnny.....thats not allowed at Vin-Auto.

[shifty35]

Yikes, needs some help in the interior...

[Johnny_K]

I hope you didn't give over 500 for that...

i didnt.

Yikes, needs some help in the interior...

yea but its just a track car. Im kinda digging this interior.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5482992462_54c7cc944e_b.jpg

[KiNdOfEvIl]

You might want to consider drag and drift and just swap suspension.
Forget about trying to push some hot laps on a drift car.

[SHMEX]

Yo man nice purchase. Who cares about looks, like yousaid, its a track car.

[nismojunkie]

ive got a set of wheels that would look great on this....work wheels....ill pm you.

[Johnny_K]

Just picked the 300zx frog and read calipers and it came with a 5 lug spindle.

How much is the front 5 lug spindle worth?

[nismojunkie]

Whole setup is worth 500+ usually.

[Johnny_K]

humm... this is all i have. The only part that would be for sale is the front spindle. worth $200?

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/1299208126.jpg

[SHMEX]

probably 150 or so. maybe even cheaper.

[rico2268]

ive run lots of different setup on quite a few 240sx im really not impressed with pbm coilovers for the price they have a lot of faults. I do like their arms though. Stance is a pretty good coilover and still pretty comfortable on the street. Megans are also well mannered on the street. Right now im runnin Dmax on 2 of my cars and love them. I wouldnt worry about a hydro ebrake right now there are tons of flaws with hydro ebrakes just run really nice pads in back and the rear will lock up fine. I see you picked up 300z brakes look into gettin a 300 master too. The pedel seems to be kinda soft if you dont

[Johnny_K]

What kind of pads do u recommend? Should I turn the stock 300zx rotors or should I get some slotted ones?

Where can 300 master haven't really seen them used or maybe I haven't really hard enough.

R the megans coils affordable?

[Johnny_K]

Front fixed, gotta put on the headlights now.

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[crxsiautox]

If you are seriously thinking autox and and drifting. I would look at getting adjustable shocks and i'd honestly keep the tire size the same from the front to the back. If you plan on keeping the KA i'd also look at opening up the front bumper or creating an airdam for the radiator and possibly a larger radiator. Being the KA is a truck engine. I've done many many head gaskets. Keep it cool and you'll be fine. Have you done SCCA before?

[Swann]

not tryin to dampen your plans, theyre all great ideas. but a word of advice, take it slow. wheels and tires, dont need em right now. e brake, steering wheel, and ALL of that suspension stuff, same. dont NEED it right now.

stock KA, coils, that diff, and a seat... perfect way to learn how to drive the car. learn how it works. how it reacts. then, modify according to your driving style.

as for having a auto x AND drift car... youll really need two cars. parts, setups, and driving style are so different... but drifting is like 1987382025087589921x more fun. statistically speaking.

good luck with everything. come out to the TNDrift event at the super speedway at the end of this month and get an idea of what youll need to get started. youll be surrounded by plenty of people willing to give you valuable input and pointers. just weed thru the dickhead fanboys that think they know everything about drift racingggg

the worst thing in the world is to throw a "racecar" together THEN learn how to drive it. your working against yourself if you do it that way. everything else will come in time.

[aye bee]

stock KA, coils, that diff, and a seat... perfect way to learn how to drive the car. learn how it works. how it reacts. then, modify according to your driving style.


just weed thru the dickhead fanboys that think they know everything about drift racingggg

the worst thing in the world is to throw a "racecar" together THEN learn how to drive it. your working against yourself if you do it that way. everything else will come in time.

qft!

[crxsiautox]

I agree to a point. If you havent' started driving autocross you need to get some drive time in. Noone comes in and smokes up the track all because of the car. It takes real time to get good.

[Johnny_K]

Never done an auto x event.

Thanks for the advice everyone. Just wanted y'all to know that I don't plan on dominating on the track. This car will b built just for fun.

At the moment I plan to use the stock 16s to drift on and plan on getting some aftermarket 18s for auto x. Thinking 18x9.5 and 18x10.5.

I will prob just do coils at the moment but need help deciding between Megan or PBM coils.

[tweetersbro2002]

PBM....that is all

[nismojunkie]

megans are not even in the same catergory as pbms....

[boosted s14.5 v2]

megans have been great on every car i've driven/ridden in em on.

[nismojunkie]

megans have been great on every car i've driven/ridden in em on.

this...i loved mine....but pbm rules in all parts...

[Swann]

im gonna go ahead and step on some toes here. PBM isnt the end all be all IN MY OPINION. and ive seen more than one of their parts literally just break under hard driving. not after a wall tap, just hard driving. but then again, even with auto cross, these are sports that require you to do things to a car that were never intended to be done. shits gonna break, dont get me wrong. i just dont want you under the impression PBM is the only manufacturer out there to get your suspension bits from. just a personal thought.

[Johnny_K]

^ thxs.

just picked up a extra welded diff
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/1299361672.jpg

[crxsiautox]

well, larger rims will be ok for autox. but what you should be more concerned with is tire size and pressure. the taller the tire the more sidewall flex, the lower tire pressure the more flex etc. raise the tire pressure to just under max. Trust me you will save time on the track!

[rx7 vinnie]

Coming togethr nice Johnny son

[Johnny_K]

Alright guys, it's time to put some work on this bad boy.

Im going to order a s14 Sr20 blk top swap from here:
http://www.jdmhookup.com/products/?id=16

What else do i need to get the engine running and about how many hours will it take to drop in the swap. Now i know this can vary but if you can please provide a rough estimate.

[pdub765]

Hellz yeah. Way to show initiative. Anything wrong with the KA?

[Johnny_K]

^ it starts and runs but idles kinda funny. Im sure it's an easy fix, I dont think the car has been on the rd for like 2 years so its hard to say how it runs. I just don't want to deal with it. I want a good solid running engine that has some power. After drifting in the 350z im not sure i want to be drifting with a KA with bolt ons.

Here is one of the additional parts list i found online..

Radiator - $200-$300
Upper/lower coolant hoses - $50-$100
Fans - $100-$200
Intercooler kit - $320-$500
Downpipe - $50-$200
Catback - $300-$500
Testpipe - $30-$100
Clutch - $250-$400
Resurface Flywheel - ~$50
Fuel Pump - $100
Z32 Fuel filter - $30
FPR - $150
Boost Gauge - $50
Water pump - $90
Oil pump - $250
Front seal - $15
Rear seal -$20
Motor mounts - $170-200

^ do i need all that stuff is there anything else big i need?

[rx7 vinnie]

Needs more rotary.

[pdub765]

HA I cant say I blame you. Ive gotta start somewhere though lol

[nismojunkie]

I would skip the fpr, f&r seals, clutch, flywheel, and oil pump and motor mounts unless yours are actually bad...and if you do mounts get urethane....usually they are not needed...but if you just want to do it all now go for it.


And it should take about 5hrs to get it all done...but If I were you...I would get a wiring specialists conversion harness...only 350 and looks amazing in the bay all new everything.

[Johnny_K]

^ thxs.

So I could have a running car in 5 hours if I bought this
http://nashville.craigslist.org/pts/2394678709.html

and this?
http://www.wiringspecialties.com/s13srins1424.html

[nismojunkie]

^ thxs.

So I could have a running car in 5 hours if I bought this
http://nashville.craigslist.org/pts/2394678709.html

and this?
http://www.wiringspecialties.com/s13srins1424.html

Yep I would do it.

[Johnny_K]

^ word, waiting for the guy to get back to me.

[aye bee]

I would skip the fpr, f&r seals, clutch, flywheel, and oil pump and motor mounts unless yours are actually bad...and if you do mounts get urethane....usually they are not needed...but if you just want to do it all now go for it.


And it should take about 5hrs to get it all done...but If I were you...I would get a wiring specialists conversion harness...only 350 and looks amazing in the bay all new everything.

id have to disagree... front and rear main seals ALWAYS go bad. i would definately replace both of those, clutch, flywheel, and get a z32 fuel filter and a walbro 255. i would also keep the factory side mount intercooler if everything internally is stock. and for right now i would also keep the factory clutch fan. look at some FD cars with sr's. alot of them still have clutch fans, they are very efficient, just be sure to have a shroud. also, try and get a koyo radiator and some good silicone hoses and cap.

[aye bee]

oh yeah, as for motor mounts, if the stock ones are bad and you want solid ones, you can use window weld to fill the holes or use 3 hockey pucks on each side. upgrade your turbo elbow as well. stock ones flow like asshole and you boost alot faster with a tubular one. and as for the rest of the exhaust, i would just get a ebay downpipe (or i might have a good used one) and catback. tubing is tubing. no need to spend $500 on something that is lowest part of your car.

[aye bee]

btw, i do have a downpipe and testpipe for sale, shoot me a text. sorry for blowin up yo thread! haha

[nismojunkie]

If you do replace the seals makes sure and be very careful not to break the housing in the rear and use plenty rtv cause mine leaks and they are brand new.

[svtour]

^ it starts and runs but idles kinda funny. Im sure it's an easy fix, I dont think the car has been on the rd for like 2 years so its hard to say how it runs. I just don't want to deal with it. I want a good solid running engine that has some power. After drifting in the 350z im not sure i want to be drifting with a KA with bolt ons.



In my opinion, you should post-pone the swap until this winter. Get the car drivable, and come drift it at IA. Then again for Driftoberfest and lastly in Dec for the Driver's appreciation day. Get to know the car and how it feels/handles sideways. If you blow up the motor, fine, swap it then. If you're unsure of the strength of your KA, Im sure someone on here would be happy to look at it. Hell, Id be happy to come look at it. Forget that swap until after you've had more seat time. You may find out that the KA provides you with all the fun you're looking for. Again, just my opinion.

[jstrobs21]

^yeah, what eric said.. SEAT TIME!!!

[Johnny_K]

Appreciate it Eric. I has no money and its cheaper to fix the KA. What side of town do you live in? The car is in the boro.

[svtour]

I live in Cane Ridge, which is just south of Antioch. Just off I-24 actually. Just let me know when you're free. I fixed the vert today. Turns out it was simply a loose ground wire for the wiring harness, which makes the injectors not fire properly. Nothing better than a free fix!!

[Johnny_K]

^ gotcha im not far from u then. Man too bad u didnt find that issue on sat.

I will hit you up later in the wk, need to try and work on it b4 it get crazy hot.

[aye bee]

I live in Cane Ridge, which is just south of Antioch. Just off I-24 actually. Just let me know when you're free. I fixed the vert today. Turns out it was simply a loose ground wire for the wiring harness, which makes the injectors not fire properly. Nothing better than a free fix!!


yo i live in cane ridge. what do you drive?

[svtour]

Currently driving a beat up 240sx vert. The car I drift with is a black 89 S13 coupe with a KA24DE swap. It looks pretty rough as well. Especially since I tapped a wall at the last drift event. How about you? What do you drive?

[Deviousjet]

My. 02 I've only owned and worked on one S13. I bought Megan's for the price savings and immediately loved them. They were great worked great and I never had any problems with them. They went pretty low (But I never slammed the car because It was my daily and I don't like herrafrush). My cousin got PBM for his S14 and they are great. I have driven his car and can tell you that I don't feel a damn difference besides his car is slammed and annoying since it scrapes on every damn thing. Also i'd get the KA running good and wait to blow the engine for two Reasons.

1. Starting off with the KA makes you rely on technique instead of power, this may not seem like a big deal but it's a handicap that's hard to unlearn when you want to drive a low horsepower car I didn't see you drift but I imagine you had alot of spinning out in your first outing with the z. too much power too little skill always leads to spinning out. Also Low power cars are usually more rewarding when driven hard.

2. Installing an SR is 4k if done correctly not skimping out on the important parts. I don't know if your a baller or not but 4k is hard to just come up with for me and I'd rather invest it in the many areas you'll find the car needing before the motor anyways. IE Suspension, Arms, Seat, Wheels,

It's best to learn the car build it little by little and KEEP IT!!! my biggest regret is selling my S13 because now I'm looking for another stock one and here I go buying all the parts once again that I originally had on my S13 so I'm kicking my ass once again.

[Johnny_K]

^ thxs for the input.

[nismojunkie]

To the guy who said he can't tell a difference between pbm and Megan coils...your a retard....I have personally had both and there is a HUGE difference...

[aye bee]

Currently driving a beat up 240sx vert. The car I drift with is a black 89 S13 coupe with a KA24DE swap. It looks pretty rough as well. Especially since I tapped a wall at the last drift event. How about you? What do you drive?

i have a vert track car, i just got rid of my 180sx and im currently driving around my swap car. its a s13 hatch spray painted blue, with green corba wheels on the front. its a missile. me and a few are going out to slide tonight, meeting at target at 830 lolololz.

[Johnny_K]

It's running many thxs for Svtour (Eric) for coming through and helping out.

Guess i'll be sliding the s14 during IA while the Z is posted up with Prosper.

[MCarp22]

To the guy who said he can't tell a difference between pbm and Megan coils...your a retard....I have personally had both and there is a HUGE difference...

I'm sure there's a huge difference between the Windflower and Bor Chuann coilovers from Taiwan.

[smittyjs]

So your sticking with the ka for awhile? Seems like a fun first drift build, good look with the build

[Johnny_K]

^Yea. Gonna stick with it till it gives out.

[nismojunkie]

^Yea. Gonna stick with it till it gives out.

Good choice with sticking with the ka...when it gives out let me know...I'm needing a ka for my 2tone...got to give you props for being out there before me haha

[Johnny_K]

^ thxs man and will do.

[jdmwill]

If I can get a lower harness for s14 ka I will be drifting my ka s14
Johnny if you need any help with your car I'd be glad to help you. Especially if you can help me with my picture taking skills. I have tools to . Actaully about 12 k worth of snap on . Ha

[nismojunkie]

If I can get a lower harness for s14 ka I will be drifting my ka s14
Johnny if you need any help with your car I'd be glad to help you. Especially if you can help me with my picture taking skills. I have tools to . Actaully about 12 k worth of snap on . Ha

Lol that's not much. Box alone at work...13k

Edit--had to be that one up guy lol

[jdmwill]

the 12k just my tools, it is not counting my box.
my box is another 10k

[jdmwill]

ily too:0

[Deviousjet]

To the guy who said he can't tell a difference between pbm and Megan coils...your a retard....I have personally had both and there is a HUGE difference...

Ridden in both drifted in both. My cousin's car cannot get any more sideways than mine could. You must be one of the elitists on zilvia. Best advice I can give the OP. Take a ride on both see if you really notice a difference.Call me whatever you want I don't care but I couldn't.

[Johnny_K]

No time to work on this anymore. Just gonna drift in the z.

Anyone want to buy it for 2gs.

[sir-t-inthemaking]

PM me some info. I'm interested

[rx7 vinnie]

I knew it was gonna end up this way..... Shame shame shame.

[Johnny_K]

^ actually just talked to Bob and gonna keep it over there. If things pan out the way it supposed to , it will be beast next drift season.

[rx7 vinnie]

Sure it will.... It'll be done the same time Black Betty (whoa ram jam whoa) and that is never.

[carmaniac1993]

JOHNNY, get the ka running right, if ur clutch isnt good get a aftermarket one, welded diff, coils, and a steering wheel.

That'll deffinatly get you started off good.

[svtour]

JOHNNY, get the ka running right, if ur clutch isnt good get a aftermarket one, welded diff, coils, and a steering wheel.

That'll deffinatly get you started off good.


He has the factory LSD. All he NEEDS is to re-bleed the clutch. And get tires. He actually has the car listed on CL. Somebody buy this and drift it July 3rd at the fairgrounds!!!

[Johnny_K]

^ yea thxs for helping me getting it running. Wish we was drifting today.

[Johnny_K]

I've come to the conclusion that im gonna keep drifting the z. Need to sell this so that i stop thinking about building it. So the car is back on CL for $1700.

http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/2527725721.html

Would be a great project for someone.

[Johnny_K]

Got another drift car to play with. Pics from the previous owner

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/mbmorrison_00/5760_1191096786827_1510590047_30511314_3685062_n.j pg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/mbmorrison_00/5760_1191096746826_1510590047_30511313_4328801_n.j pg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/mbmorrison_00/5760_1191096706825_1510590047_30511312_1210408_n.j pg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/mbmorrison_00/459959968_1605741874_0.jpg

Pretty sure im going with PBM coils unless i can find some used megans.

Still undecided on the rest of the suspension, Has anyone had any experience with this?

ISIS Kit includes:
*Front Tension Rods
*Rear Upper Control Arms
*Rear Traction Links
*Rear Toe Links

[Darkslide74]

from everything I've seen buying used coils is a pretty big gamble. Make sure you buy careful if you go that route. Nice pick up. Definitely better than thrashing the z especially if events go somewhere where hitting a wall is a bigger possibility.

[rx7 vinnie]

Because.......RACECAR!!!!

[GREEN Rx8]

you dick.... I was convincing my dad to help throw down on this very car... nice pickup!

[Johnny_K]

Haha Will, I just hope I have somewhere to drift it next yr