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Old 12-29-2013, 09:25 AM   #21
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I'm gonna end up giving my wife the sporty when I get a street glide.
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:32 AM   #22
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Buy a supermoto. They are fairly cheap, very forgiving, and cheap to drop, unlike modern sportbikes

i didn't even think of that. motards are fun as fuck.
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:35 AM   #23
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Find a dual sport for cheap, like under 1000, spend 1200 on a supermoto kit and boom.. Youll have way more fun on that, than you would on any 600.
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Old 12-29-2013, 02:00 PM   #24
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And your ass would hurt after 15 minutes... ever straddle a 2x4? But you wont car what with all the wheelies...sliding and just hilarity you would be enjoying..
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:08 PM   #25
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I have had my license for 20 years, and have been riding even longer. The best advice I can think to give you is to NEVER assume anyone else on the road sees you. Riding wasn't bad when I started. There weren't any cell phones out there to distract other drivers. People had a bag phone or car phone at best, and honestly, very few even had those.

I never had any bike gear, it wasn't as popular 20 years ago, however I think it is probably a great idea. If I ever have kids that want to get into bikes I will get them gear.

You picked a great time of year to decide to buy a bike. I have owned dual sports, CBRs, cruisers, and have even spent some time on a Gold Wing. Pick a style you like, and sit on it to see how cramped it feels. I am 6'2", and a 600 CBR is a bit cramped, but it was still a ton of fun.
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:01 PM   #26
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Also if you are looking at 250s, the kawi is a parallel twin and the cbr is single. And thats a big difference.
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:50 PM   #27
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Also if you are looking at 250s, the kawi is a parallel twin and the cbr is single. And thats a big difference.
Its the difference between having throttle left at 70mph or being tapped out at 70mph. Go with the Ninjette IF you go 250... great little bike...60+mpg, 100mph, handling is hilarious. Cheap as dirt to insure.
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:36 PM   #28
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I still say skip 250 and go for 500/600
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:53 PM   #29
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I still say skip 250 and go for 500/600
I think its important to talk about the difference between a 500/650 standard/sport standard and a 600 supersport.

supersports and superbikes make terrible first bikes.


That being said you could do worse with a first bike if you say chose a rowboat or maybe a toilet.
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Old 12-30-2013, 03:02 PM   #30
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my first bike was an 05 gsxr1000. i hadn't even been on a dirt bike before.
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Old 12-30-2013, 03:13 PM   #31
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my first bike was an 05 gsxr1000. i hadn't even been on a dirt bike before.
I bet you would have learned more on a slower bike. Thats my point.
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Old 12-30-2013, 04:00 PM   #32
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my first bike was a blackbird. Lol it took some time to grow some balls but I managed to find a pair

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Old 12-30-2013, 04:19 PM   #33
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my first bike was a blackbird. Lol it took some time to grow some balls but I managed to find a pair

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Old 12-30-2013, 04:56 PM   #34
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Power doesnt matter.. Its all in self control and yOur right hand.
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Power doesnt matter.. Its all in self control and yOur right hand.
Its in alot more than that, and there are many sources that repeat what I am saying but I'm happy that you are happy with where you are with your riding. We may not see eye to eye on training and progression of skills, but we see eye to eye on a bigger thing.. riding is awesome!
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Old 12-30-2013, 05:32 PM   #36
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Let me explain my answer a little better....

You could start out on any motorcycle. If you have the squid mentality that you know everything and everyone sees you, and you dont respect the bike, you are going to crash on anything, weather it a supermoto, cbr, busa, harley, whatever.

Now, if you have self control, cautious, aware of your surroundings, respect the bike and the power it has, and NOT push it on the street you are less likely to crash. It doesnt matter if the bike has 200 hp or 20, it will only go as fast as you will let it.
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Old 12-30-2013, 05:34 PM   #37
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Im not disagreeing that you will learn more on a lower powered bike, im just saying if you arent an idiot you will be fine with anything
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Old 12-30-2013, 05:54 PM   #38
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I agree. To a point. After 7 years I went back to a 250 for awhile, and I learned ALOT about suspension and cornering. My motorcycle progression has been like this

KLX250S
GSXR600
TL1000R
Ninja 650R
Ninja 250
TL1000R

The thing with the faster bikes is they weigh more and demand more skill IF you are approaching any sort of limit..and the limits are so HIGH on the better handling fast bikes is that a newer rider wont have time to process or recognize that braking or cornering limit and will wonder why he is sliding.

This can happen during a panic stop.

That said. There is a bit of reason and truth to what you said too.

I still think he would enjoy lower insurance, lower purchase cost and more accessible performance of say a EX500, Ninja 650 or SV650. V- Twins sound better than I4s...but whatever... :P

Thing I was getting at its not the engine of a 600 supersport that is the danger..its the commited riding position(that inexperienced riders will lock elbows and have unintended inputs with) and the razor sharp BRAKES that can be a recipe for a lowside or worse.

That was all I was getting at, but yes, the bike WILL only go as fast as the throttle clutch let it.

Take your pick...there are no BAD motorcycles..and if you have some riding experience already...even if its a scooter, maybe you can start somewhere else than a sv650 or less.

In anycase, if you enjoy riding at all, this likely WON'T be your last bike...trust me ...crap the wife caught me looking at craigslist bikes again...crap.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:08 PM   #39
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I think its important to talk about the difference between a 500/650 standard/sport standard and a 600 supersport.

supersports and superbikes make terrible first bikes.


That being said you could do worse with a first bike if you say chose a rowboat or maybe a toilet.
I agree. Yeah I was leaning more towards like a ninja 500/650 or sv650 etc. as a first bike. Its good to start slower.
I don't know how anyone could step down when it comes to sport bikes. After getting used to my 1000rr, I got back on my 600 just to take it out stretch its legs one day. I was shocked and appalled at the difference in power. I could never see myself riding less than a liter bike when it comes to a sport bike.
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I agree. Yeah I was leaning more towards like a ninja 500/650 or sv650 etc. as a first bike. Its good to start slower.
I don't know how anyone could step down when it comes to sport bikes. After getting used to my 1000rr, I got back on my 600 just to take it out stretch its legs one day. I was shocked and appalled at the difference in power. I could never see myself riding less than a liter bike when it comes to a sport bike.
A lot likely depends on your riding style. If you prefer to just cruise around and hammer it on the straight aways, the more power the better. If you really want to develop your riding skills, a lesser bike may be better. Kind of like why it is better to start off racing a Miata than a Corvette.
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