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Just recently ran across a article talking about the rb-20 det
and someone mentioned something about a rb-30? what's the difference between
the RB20 ,RB24 ,RB25 ,RB26 ,RB30?

any major differences?
 

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people like em because that is the motor thats actually comparable to a 2jz....both 3.0 i6, STOUT ass motors. parts and such are just a lil harder to come by iirc. if casey (leftlane) comes in he can tell you more about em.
 

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generaltaco said:
yeah, just never herd of them before today. Never seen one that I know of.
x2, sure sounds bad ass tho.
 

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from Wikipedia:

RB30

Three models of 3.0 L RB30 were produced:

* RB30S - carbureted single-cam
* RB30E - fuel-injected single-cam (114 kW @ 5200 rpm, 247 N·m (25.2 kgf·m) @ 3600 rpm)
* RB30E R31 Skyline - fuel-injected single-cam (117 kW @ 5200 rpm, 252 N·m (25.2 kgf·m) @ 3600 rpm)
* RB30ET VL Commodore - fuel-injected single-cam turbo (150 kW @ 5600 rpm, 296 N·m @ 3200 rpm)

This motor was produced because the Holden 202 (3.3 L) powering the Holden Commodore could no longer satisfy emissions requirements, and with all new cars required to run on unleaded petrol by 1986, a quick replacement was needed. Nissan Motor Co. sold the RB30E to Holden for the VL Commodore. The RB30E in the VL suffered from cylinder head cracking due to the radiator being fitted lower in the engine bay, causing air locks in the cylinder head. This was not as severe in R31 Skyline as the radiator is mounted higher. The engine proved to be very reliable apart from this issue. The RB30S was found in some Middle Eastern R31 Skylines and in some Nissan Patrols. The RB30E was found in R31 Skylines and VL Commodores in Australia as well as in South African R31 Skylines (with 126 kW @ 5000 rpm and 260 Nm @ 3500 rpm)

The turbocharged RB30ET (producing 150 kW) was found only in the VL Commodore (available in all Calais) and consisted of a lower compression RB30E bottom end, more powerful oil pump, T3 Garrett turbocharger, 250 cc injectors and a different intake manifold. The motor itself is still popular today (albeit in highly modified form) on the Australian Drag Racing circuit.

Nissan Special Vehicles Division Australia produced two limited models of R31 Skylines, the GTS1 and GTS2. These contained slightly more powerful RB30E engines, containing lumpier cams and better flowing exhausts.

* GTS1 RB30E - injected single-cam (130 kW @ 5500 rpm, 255 Nm (26.0 kgf·m) @ 3500 rpm) - special cam profile, special exhaust[6]
* GTS2 RB30E - injected single-cam (140 kW @ 5600 rpm, 270 N·m (27.5 kgf·m) @ 4400 rpm) - special cam profile, special exhaust, piggy back computer, valve porting[7]

RB30DE

These rare engines were used in the Tommy Kaira M30 based on the R31 Skyline GTS-R. A modified RB20DE head was bolted on to the RB30E block. It delivered 177 kW (240 PS) @ 7000 rpm and 294 N·m (30.0 kgf·m) @ 4800 rpm.

RB30DET

RB30DET - R31 RB30E block, R32 RB25DE head.
RB30DET - R31 RB30E block, R32 RB25DE head.

Nissan did not produce this engine, but it refers to a turbocharged engine featuring an RB30E block with a twin-cam head conversion. Common hybrid in Australasia using a RB30E bottom end mated to a RB25DE,RB25DET or RB26DETT cylinder head and turbo (RB20DE and DET heads are not used as the bores are different in size; RB30 86.0mm RB20 78.0mm). The RB25DE cylinder head from the R32 Skyline, A31 Cefiro or C33 Laurel can be used, and fits perfectly on (although better valve springs are required to prevent valve float when running any more than stock boost). The RB25DET (from the R33 Skyline or C34 Laurel or Stagea) head is also used, however an external oil feed must be fabricated for the variable cam timing on the RB25DET, and the galleries at the front of the engine do not line up. The variable cam timing may be disconnected altogether.

The fitment of a twin cam head from any of these engines onto a standard compression RB30E bottom end gives an ideal compression ratio for a mild to moderately modified street turbo engine, making the conversion popular amongst those who would otherwise convert their RB30E to a high compression RB30ET using original ET bolt on externals.

Although it has a larger displacement than the RB26DETT, maximum possible horsepower is less, as the RB30 block lacks the RB26 block's internal cast-in bracing, and consequently cannot rev as high due to harmonic issues at ~7500 rpm. To compensate, the RB30DET produces more torque at lower revs. There is also an 'RB30DETT' kit manufactured by OS Giken of Japan, which bolts an extension on top of the RB26 engine block, and fits liners, to give an 86 mm bore x 86 mm stroke. It is available as an assembled short block, containing billet chrome-molybdenum crank, billet chrome-molybdenum H-beam connecting rods, forged pistons, and costs ¥1,500,000.
 

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An rb30 is a carbed nissan SOHC motor. Ehat most ppl talk about are a hybrid using the
rb30 block(3.0L that is stronger than any other rb block) and an rb 25-26 det-t head.
These make monsterous power and have th high rev potential. The RB30DET is like the
2jz of nissan.

Rb24det is a rb20det bored and stroked using rb26 crank rods and custom 84mm pistons
If done forrectly they can make high power and rev to 9k with out hesitation.
 

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there is no substitute :lol:
had to do it before jdmpwr07 got a chance!

like mentioned, RB## is just the rb-series nissan I6 where the #s give the displacement (2.0L, 2.6L, 3.0L, etc)
RB24 is a hybrid, and like race breed said the RB30 can be referring to what techy posted or the hybrid rb30 block + rb26 head

rb's are skyline motors, essentially ...
 

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right venom

I have an rb20, and i am also starting an rb24 stroker build. If u need any info on
rb motors hit me up, i dont know everything, but i know where to find out what u need to know.
Also if any one is intterested in an rb 30 hit me up for pricing on a base or fully built.
Sorry for all the erroers im a lil in intocixated at the momentt. LOL


 

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I have looked into this some... only bad part, is if you really want to be in the land of 2JZ power, you will probably want the stroker stuff for the RB30 block, and a bad ass 26 head... bye bye 15-25k EASY.... If they weren't so expensive, they would be Really bad ass... A few guys have them over on Supra forums and make 1200-1800hp on the engine dyno.
 

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jdmpwr07 said:
RB30 is definitely FTW. Some people may compare it to the 2JZ...but I say 3.4 stroker bitches. And the argument is over 8)

actually there is something to fear my young 2J brother... the stroked 30's can be 3.5 and Ive seen a 3.6... the 3.6l one had twin 71mm's... thats a 2khp setup... and about 60k in the power train... no weana!!!
 

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Regardless of what people say, the rb30 is an expensive build. 30s are very rare since they never came in the actual nissan skylilne. They only came in Holdens from australia. You can find the motors in europe or asia, or might even be able to find some here in the states, but your gonna fork out the money on the build. Sure you can buy a motor already and drop it in, but if your gonna pay for the motor anyways, why would you only want stock hp?

I looked into do the rb30, but decided against it and now im going with a rb26 and fully building it. And yes, Ill be throwing some serious dough at it, but it will be worth it in the end, least imo.

Yes, I could have just built the rb25 i have already, but I wanted to go more power, and I really want twins. And the 25 will be going in a daily car(just dont know what yet...)

But another aspect that people dont look at, is when you starting considerin the RBxx motors, you gotta look at parts, first putting it together, and then repairing it when something goes wrong. And as we all know in this industry, something always goes wrong under the hood. If its man made, its bound to mess up eventually. FACT! Just dont know how long though. lol
But anyways, when something does go wrong, you gotta find that part, and usually with the RB series, you have to go searching for that part. You cant just hop down to the nissan dealer, or even a local parts store and buy it. YOU CANT EVEN ORDER IT FORM THEM!! You have to start looking at a performance shops that MIGHT can order it for you. But your best bet is to find it overseas(europe, middle east, asia, austraila, etc) yourself. And normally your gonna pay a pretty penny for the part since overseas they know the rb parts are in low supply here, so they jack up the price. Supply and demand my friend..

In my honest opinion, if you really want to look into an RB motor, find you a SKYLINE forum, register, and start reading as much as you can. I'm personally on skylineowners.com. Its an england based forum.
 

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Good2GetBlown said:
jdmpwr07 said:
RB30 is definitely FTW. Some people may compare it to the 2JZ...but I say 3.4 stroker bitches. And the argument is over 8)

actually there is something to fear my young 2J brother... the stroked 30's can be 3.5 and Ive seen a 3.6... the 3.6l one had twin 71mm's... thats a 2khp setup... and about 60k in the power train... no weana!!!
I literally lol'ed when I saw the young 2J brother :lol:

Thanks for the info...never heard of anything bigger than a 3.0 for the RB. But 60K in the drive train is :shock:
 
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